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Although to be honest, I also don=E2=80=99t really understand what exactly is unclear. > This makes it hard for me to see what I am actually voting for I suggest we do it this way. I=E2=80=99ll write a summary here, and if need= ed we can add some of these phrases to the RFC. I have an idea to format the summary as questions and answers. That will probably make it easier to understand. > I would suggest to add a =E2=80=9Cfull stub=E2=80=9D + > Also, please make sure to add the =E2=80=9CAbstain=E2=80=9D option to the= vote I will do it, thanks > With regard to the relationship with fibers I will also take these questions into account in the next message. Thanks, Ed