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This idea has appeared several times in previous threads but never progr= essed to a formal proposal (from what I could find). My hope is that wit= h defined semantics, examples, and implementation details, we can evalua= te it properly and see whether there=E2=80=99s support for moving forwar= d. Feedback is very welcome. Sincerely, Rob Landers --97b938c13a4b4005b394a476265119b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Intern= als,

I=E2=80=99d like to introduce an RFC for d= iscussion: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespace_visibility which proposes = a new visibility modifier: private(namespace).

= This idea has appeared several times in previous threads but never progr= essed to a formal proposal (from what I could find). My hope is that wit= h defined semantics, examples, and implementation details, we can evalua= te it properly and see whether there=E2=80=99s support for moving forwar= d. Feedback is very welcome.

Sincerely,

Rob Landers
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