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Instead of adding more arbitrarily c= hosen letters we now have a more meaningful way to indicate endianness. It = also is proven by Tim's patch that this isn't hard to achieve. While implem= entation-wise adding some more letters is easier, Tim's patch isn't really = difficult anyway. So, if I get it right, you would both prefer a RFC proposing to add < and > for letters using machine endianness, with no effect on other letters (like Perl does)? I try to think about possible edge and error cases before what I really think about this proposition. If you have in mind tricky things that could be worth investigating deeper with implementing modifiers, please let me know. =E2=80=94 Alexandre Daubois