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Different people have different opinions on this point. But it seems there=E2=80=99s no harm in PHP developers knowing that these t= wo components exist under the hood. Their description in the RFC isn=E2=80=99t part of the implementation detai= ls. It=E2=80=99s more of a mention in the context of concurrency architecture. The descriptions are given in the most abstract way possible and don=E2=80= =99t include any implementation details. --- Ed