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Tue, 21 Oct 2025 21:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: list list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0e4e39d6-9cc9-4970-92e0-2463143b4011@app.fastmail.com> <37180d8d-85b4-49a3-a672-334bf4329470@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37180d8d-85b4-49a3-a672-334bf4329470@app.fastmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 07:32:36 +0300 X-Gm-Features: AS18NWCMZK4mPEA1OcYWVVfpbCbtYbPnIXCwCre7zJ4m1byM6HOgW1a8ir_qCjk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP True Async RFC Stage 4 To: Rob Landers Cc: Aaron Piotrowski , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: edmond.ht@gmail.com (Edmond Dantes) Hi > I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=9Crule=E2=80=9D per se and wh= y I suggested breaking it up into two different kinds of Awaitables. > Invariants make code easier to reason about and work with. The more invar= iants you have, the easier it is to form, maintain, and refactor. So that is the rule: **invariants make code easier to understand**. A more general principle is stated as follows: reducing complexity. I think this point needs some thought. If the await operation is allowed only for Future, it will make the code more consistent which is a good thing. Then it will be necessary to add a FutureInterface, and Awaitable should be hidden from the UserLand namespace.