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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 13:59:37 +0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Deprecate PEAR and recommend Composer
To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
Cc: Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net>, Brent Roose <brent.roose@jetbrains.com>, 
	PHP Internals List <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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Hi Derick,

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025, 1:05=E2=80=AFAM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote=
:

>
> I think these would be my primary actions too:
>
> - unbundle pear/pecl from PHP alltogether
> - not have pear.php.net on the php.net domain.
>
> The latter is because we have no access, and I have no idea what OS it
> runs, how it is set up, and whether it even received package and OS
> updates in the last decade.
>

It was migrated, if my memory serves me correctly, at the same time than
wiki when the compromising attack happened (long ago). I thought you were
involved to it with Bjori? but it may get lost down the road? I lost all
pear/pecl/wiki systems accesses during  that time.


My only wish is if we could keep it archived, read-only,  and the pgz
accessible as file downloads. That could be done without access tho, but it
requires some more work :)

best,
Pierre

>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>H=
i Derick,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"au=
to"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 14, 2025, 1:05=E2=80=
=AFAM Derick Rethans &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:derick@php.net">derick@php.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
I think these would be my primary actions too:<br>
<br>
- unbundle pear/pecl from PHP alltogether<br>
- not have <a href=3D"http://pear.php.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">pear.php.net</a> on the <a href=3D"http://php.net" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">php.net</a> domain.<br>
<br>
The latter is because we have no access, and I have no idea what OS it <br>
runs, how it is set up, and whether it even received package and OS <br>
updates in the last decade.<br></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">It was migrated, if my memory serves me correctly, at =
the same time than wiki when the compromising attack happened (long ago). I=
 thought you were involved to it with Bjori? but it may get lost down the r=
oad? I lost all pear/pecl/wiki systems accesses during=C2=A0 that time.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>My only wish is if we could keep it archived, read-only,=C2=A0 and the pgz=
 accessible as file downloads. That could be done without access tho, but i=
t requires some more work :)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Pierre</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gma=
il_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquot=
e></div></div>

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