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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2025 15:54:41 +0200
To: youkidearitai <youkidearitai@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Fwd: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clarify discussion and voting period rules
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

Am 2025-09-27 15:58, schrieb youkidearitai:
>> In fact we had just that for PHP 8.5. The “Add locale for case
>> insensitive grapheme functions” RFC had gotten little feedback during
>> the discussion and during the vote, Derick mentioned that the proposal
>> was insufficient to make an educated decision. The vote was then
>> canceled and later (successfully) restarted:
>> https://externals.io/message/127791#127803
> 
> I set up an Under discussion for two weeks and sent a reminder email,
> so why did it say "Derick stopped it"?
> I went to vote after going through the official procedure, but for
> some reason I was suddenly told NO.

I believe there might be a misunderstanding. It definitely was not great 
that folks didn't speak up during the discussion and only did so after 
you started the vote. However I believe that you canceling the vote and 
making additional changes was *the right decision*. Ultimately it made 
the RFC better, which is a good thing.

My policy RFC is explicitly saying that canceling the vote in cases like 
this is allowed.

> My understanding is that he didn't take part in the discussion on
> "Under Discussion" and didn't even vote.
> 
> Why is there such a difference in perception?

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus