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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
To: Sam Hobbs <SoCalSam@GMail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] mysql_connect using version 5.0.1 accesses the internet
 when host and client are the same system
From: rasmus@php.net (Rasmus Lerdorf)

Uh, I have no idea where ths reaction came from.  I was asking you to dig
a little deeper by telnetting to whatever port you have MySQL listening
to.  If you can't get to the port yourself, then obviously PHP can't
either and it wouldn't be a PHP problem.

-Rasmus

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Sam Hobbs wrote:

> "Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@php.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0409152141160.1427@t42p.lerdorf.com...
> >
> > I am not sure why you assume this to be a PHP problem.
>
> I thought I was being reasonable. I thought I was clear about saying I was
> not sure it is a PHP problem. I was trying to help by helping diagnose a
> problem. If it is not a problem then you could say so in a more reasonable
> manner. If you always react to people this way when they are trying to help
> then you will have an inferior product since you discourage people from
> helping.
>
> I am not assuming; that is why I am asking this question. You really can say
> the same thing except without the emotions. You can simply state the fact
> that as far as you know it is not a PHP problem. It really, really helps to
> keep in mind that it is better to simply state facts. That keeps things less
> emotional and generally keeps things at a more reasonable level.
>
> > Sounds like your
> > firewall is blocking both local and external connections.  Can you telnet
> > to port 10061 on localhost with the firewall enabled?
>
> I think the PHP messages need to be documented. It is unclear whether 10061
> is a port or an error code. Are you sure it is a port? I am not aware of
> MySQL using port 10061. I did not change anything to specify port 10061 and
> this is a fresh install of MySQL.
>
> Again, if you think that what I described sounds like it is normal behavior,
> then simply saying so helps a lot. If it is normal behavior, then it would
> probably help a lot of people to say so somewhere.
>
> One reason I say that the PHP messages need to be documented better is
> indicated by all the many others with the same problem. If you search for:
>
>     +mysql_connect +10061
>
> You will find many web sites that have that error. It is a common problem
> that many people are encountering and it appears that many people don't know
> how to solve it; their web sites are down. Many of the other results are
> from people asking about the problem and it is not clear how many of them
> have not solved the problem. It appears that many have not.
>
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