Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128734 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADEE71A00BC for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 15:20:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1758899959; bh=F/5zGWoUk000AU6FIYWA5NVrFIlc4aVrOsejI2IQHIY=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=SP9gyJZlEpJk2ZTKn8Gar3HhFxxBoX3h7K4KXTQ+ot/tIvhk/sPSgN12wgGQQr3YJ CvcH3vZScvQej+qPrFMbk851nRKVMRQqh5L5N4MYbcRP8o1vK0bAT3XVG1sP22cwv2 eXgqkp7NwSKdGa6eWV0TwXYxya4E+ecdEZXKkV9CU5BHvYlN5vsnKMcineK8AL4I+3 ngTiyAkVD2fKQ51P56CUMkNd8MQTTbd3PmSM9ZXnhyU/P627CC5nF6BI5FGYe/CMc2 vu04pcNminlQBBmBZShm3uZg7efFfh3Vog/f4Va556RtBZUxpH/YhODXo9/we2tBva ZGpIqWkbiQntQ== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26581804C9 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 15:19:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 15:19:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1758900035; bh=Z4sccbCJ+Iqn9hPjQ16tNFZ65xqfmQJv2pND1sO5zU0=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=GU9LfRLpopnr8Pky8vHG8ENiAFmQfTBB3XY5rmbnCGlWM0ohEFoxX6dPvA2TfXhsM lUHeq6Up9CJtDh7oVvhDekuyAAvuAfo8DapWbJpzoxl8CEI2oMviJWZivTvWjDl90f DtiYTlFAi3X+7ubqoZadF/IOPfzPQKmjzm5ZNTdW6SA8F34WDOnq4zZBlV/4wkB9tB fuMYRp5ZJqmYh9zrjPjysaSY6+GKsr+2ZJV8b++YfgWqLcYgNbo8dZ0g/MWpF5p0n1 9U317Zvwm4BDkLWVjApAnMXdgB9lHgBQpEVzVj4NkS8YAxkNdao0AW6g+CtD1xJxJ8 3X3r1QPa0hfsw== Message-ID: <44951bf1-75f3-4cdd-ac29-5fa82ec91482@bastelstu.be> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 17:20:34 +0200 Precedence: list list-help: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clarify discussion and voting period rules To: Larry Garfield , php internals References: <53cdbf5b-7c6e-4ba1-9987-332634cab527@bastelstu.be> <29c9d6cfcc2928d3805596416edbff6e@bastelstu.be> <92a59844e30a9ca0550456886913fdb1@bastelstu.be> <1a9046bf-2dcc-4049-b1e7-e82d4230b0f6@app.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi On 9/25/25 16:46, Larry Garfield wrote: > I'm inclined to agree. If within 48 hours it's obvious that an RFC is doomed, I don't see an issue with the author going "eh, never mind" and saving everyone 2 weeks of waiting. If there's some key controversial bit they can change and try again, I think that's reasonable. Probably needs a Major Change cooldown period, but that's fine. The current proposal already specifies that canceling a vote is a “Major change”. I also expect that any changes made *after* canceling and *before* restarting the vote would be Major changes themselves, so unless the changes happen right away and are then uncontentious, I would expect the new vote to come no earlier than 3-4 weeks after the cancelation. Best regards Tim Düsterhus