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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clarify discussion and voting period rules
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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:14:42 +0700
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To: Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes>
From: php@nicksdot.dev (Nick)


> On 25. Sep 2025, at 05:02, Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes> wrote:
>=20
> This would allow an unscrupulous person to basically restart a vote if =
it isn=E2=80=99t going in the direction they want, without any reason =
other than an =E2=80=9Cissue=E2=80=9D with the RFC. This means they can =
rely upon attrition to eventually pass an RFC that would otherwise not =
pass, bypassing the current =E2=80=9Cone year or with major changes=E2=80=9D=
 rule.
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> For example, the nested classes RFC was clearly not going to pass. Had =
this policy existed, taking what feedback I had already gotten, I could =
have simply declared =E2=80=9Can issue=E2=80=9D and updated it with =
their feedback; restarting the vote. I personally wouldn=E2=80=99t do =
that, but this would explicitly allow that behavior.=20
>=20
> =E2=80=94 Rob


Hey,=20

I am wondering if this is actually a bad thing.
I=E2=80=99d argue if a RFC is evolving until it passes it does good for =
the language.

Maybe such "in between votes=E2=80=9D could help to gather sentiment in =
complicated, lengthy discussions?
Author tries, sees that it likely will not succeed, goes back to =
discussion, refines, starts vote again.

There would need to be clear rules for that too, of course. Maybe =
maximum restarts until the 6 month rule applies?

I find this worth to think about .

Cheers
Nick=