Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128613 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8735A1A00BC for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 18:54:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1756925555; bh=sJIr+t2rvwseDRRxvs5s/mPB0EiCfGZGMknIGuPHZ5c=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=CndD2pN11Ex/GrwtB5znZ2jlXbfMgn00r/6UhOWb+tjVx3Wv6JJPv/4G02+D1ujtV kC+mcqi7RIgLXp9vKjlhY8ovI5XiyM9ZQ37YVw2UQ1rz5j2UbYVjszkfMIVfQeIdC3 f6lIjQq//5JBd5NrUjBUHg3O76VupiT67+puFEPHlQLVwteS5tecMyVdYuMD7d19+t mgx4j+kH8d9zsehCX0QKhE0PjWqLLe7tJ1NfYNf6BEDnFqtmFWI1zvJE7BCQohdq2l UrdTLN7sjXUrsaCNzJ6SW9ZYdhMBdwiKpIB193mMhCVIkoRYlrhKX8O8Z3TNK1Yb5+ 1MAU+Psy6+mBw== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E171801D8 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 18:52:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_NONE, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oa1-f41.google.com (mail-oa1-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 18:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-3158a9ccc52so121346fac.3 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2025 11:54:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1756925643; x=1757530443; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=sJIr+t2rvwseDRRxvs5s/mPB0EiCfGZGMknIGuPHZ5c=; b=v4RMnn20P3QcLGzfcko7PBR6P33gII2US//ZjRDzja084MfEQH86PWvNDCFTUu/zC/ LKbotDsAafZcnExzsD3zkWmctQWjQPG3C0lq8CyuyesW1HfeY0P6R3Qqmn/Zx8rIDzhl wBB/+t1AMx/TpWKzKv+xQI6eEVpyp71zBpJftnatpdOKr/qcyvgJzmxGI0T8NT3B+exy fh3w4PfcJxepShOe+ndoe6VA0I3USvJBHlaIt2rIxyjrnpQKofce5F1ALKsm+6fvuSjM L8qNRkkKN8jJHFXCjMRg2w6gTvn0esZp7TEcowvTQvYwmVbxoCJvQ/kj4dlZtqRmd9iE PlPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzjOwRZbkQmlMMNWMdYJ+4SNXssg1e1m5xkC77cpAcfO8CTT1/c Yz8vvu/BL/wV28aF5xY0+v7DWotyJY3SC5UF6oFu1B3KM+LRSL2VYT3yuVZAk55ITlBvaTvMmlP 7cCB9qxFRCquHurckBoc9zGXXyWo+X8U= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctCcz6O9i8NZUxCApiL4h4KKexsmSLaMauLnmPbhWiZRSHHOk+FBAGWolrnGDa oHgJIPN/pjIDYQUeDWaOV2D3iTHXm7HXY8AygHpGYnyAI+Qbb07B9rN8qLJfsOh/wKRqVo2/enw pGFX2kLI3NB3bemZRXrxkj+Vkv4yKX2yVa6p4Roq5jeCuInLGwbQvE4x1qxzl6Mk7TRPBrmbUqo eg5NDFfAdNQYqU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFELGET6cUaUi1QLwbO36YMFNYdCgSxqmhcFBFhOMtSBLI5oEsEMtKDpi70CeB1Y35FgrP0MCNf+GnbbGnbXH4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:8913:b0:30b:aeb8:fa62 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-319630c87f6mr8061076fac.16.1756925643454; Wed, 03 Sep 2025 11:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: list list-help: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 20:53:51 +0200 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXyyq6n-a_reFHzoO159Y5OXrHLTzlbnO2sw1ZFXrFEPGWSn5fyd55AjPMc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Recommend PIE and deprecate PECL To: james@asgrim.com Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dffd1d063dea2014" From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka) --000000000000dffd1d063dea2014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 9:43=E2=80=AFAM James Titcumb wrote: > Folks, > > Presenting the RFC for deprecating PECL and adopting PIE as the > recommended extension installer for PHP: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/adopt_pie_deprecate_pecl > > +1 on this in general. The only thing that might be worth to consider is what to do with prefixing of extension repos that we currently have in PHP GH org. Should that be also deprecated and should we make clear that we are not going to add more of those pecl-* repos and maybe at some point try to move them out of php GH org? Cheers Jakub --000000000000dffd1d063dea2014 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

On Sat, Aug 23, 2025 at 9:43= =E2=80=AFAM James Titcumb <tit= cumbjames@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,

Pr= esenting the RFC for deprecating PECL and adopting PIE as the recommended e= xtension installer for PHP:



+1 on this in general.

The on= ly thing that might be worth to consider is what to do with prefixing of ex= tension repos that we currently have in PHP GH org. Should that be also dep= recated and should we make clear that we are not going to add more of those= pecl-* repos and maybe at some point try to move them out of php GH org?

Cheers

Jakub
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