Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128610 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 611DC1A00BC for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 13:25:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1756905846; bh=0uyMuJcgy2hMYkd4X9oirkCxcixHq8JpPg965HM7L38=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=IopE2UpJtV15Jwpd2MmAI1HxJQ7U5v+ljBWxB29WUYjTZrc/uiTRn5R+T8UC6kQu9 S+mZL898vUcwH6zkOfOgFpvZn4tbbqALDnHm0v+/eXJawTaup7ecnPgJkyv6rt/iKn PC8Y+hK9kIL7d5/5JKMxiWYMFTOz5tVFZa9ClDu0grIFBWeoi4x1kJoshLc9fGmWqf RX5OsafoGweHtIvE6rI2R17AWxXM3gOeuMg+4lBvZKux00KLQHhceCWs2G8Vp7XrTL bFGC6OAVoDgBBLZ4fx4AJ9sb1PTd8EBcomUkdMZEj3QzTaRkOKa1/85LUqY8TH6C1O 2jy1/MDQc2m6g== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DC418006C for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 13:24:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2025 13:24:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1756905932; bh=2w4RKDImk9VnpgUtzA23AlHqpK/Sd8kXALzruGVO/5U=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=ITPt8aYnpoknwNxnlvrzfwQY3f6D506cw6mW/Erysvw+SOs+BY7UfsodJauC1Bkho xCeWAF5dTvLgSbro1qe6YT7toauh9NWdNFrCVw4zqxo4+nZnQSBAmfqnvS+e5xcPU7 4FcZpjb0oaNxFxgyEXmXpaUouBW9nU+OZrriz1gTkoioFIgEion+mQt5E00J8mjxtD AE+iWE7S6J+edqqmqsuxqWuIeuyeTKQLVZm6FpOPcG/SSACm3fbPgpd0x5IMpPPADP clsJqja27i2k+765oN3oZwlgjQtw2ARflDwXLwi9X2QKf2zJsM0X94r1wOiegpu6Pv VA1enUsC0V32g== Precedence: list list-help: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2025 15:25:32 +0200 To: Nick Cc: PHP internals , php.lists@allenjb.me.uk Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clarify discussion and voting period rules In-Reply-To: References: <53cdbf5b-7c6e-4ba1-9987-332634cab527@bastelstu.be> <4624748F-0C62-4E3C-81D0-5CDC56FEC55F@nicksdot.dev> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi Am 2025-09-02 15:08, schrieb Tim Düsterhus: >> 1) Reference of discussion in RFCs >> >> When I try to look into the discussions of older RFCs to find out why >> they ended up the way they did, it’s not easy. You hardly can find >> them. This is because they are often not referenced in the RFC itself. >> >> Going forward, would it make sense to make it mandatory to reference >> '[Discussion]' and '[Vote]' in the RFC text itself? > > I'll make the requested adjustments and then follow up here on the > list. I have made the change in the following commit: https://github.com/php/policies/pull/23/commits/fdd28a322aa03ccc822d8f0ac3fa1d934a519a7e, added the link to the discussion of this very RFC to the RFC itself and updated the changelog section. As this is a major change to the RFC, the discussion period will go for another 2 weeks from now. Given that the emails do not immediately become available in the archives, I've used the “as soon as possible wording” with deadline for the voting announcement and voting close respectively. While the RFC is in progress, the threads should still be easy to find. The goal is to preserve easy access after several months have passed, so I don't think a super tight deadline is necessary as long as it happens eventually. Best regards Tim Düsterhus