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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 15:08:53 +0200
To: Nick <php@nicksdot.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clarify discussion and voting period rules
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

Am 2025-09-01 14:46, schrieb Nick:
> 1) Reference of discussion in RFCs
> 
> When I try to look into the discussions of older RFCs to find out why 
> they ended up the way they did, it’s not easy. You hardly can find 
> them. This is because they are often not referenced in the RFC itself.
> 
> Going forward, would it make sense to make it mandatory to reference 
> '[Discussion]' and '[Vote]' in the RFC text itself?

I'll make the requested adjustments and then follow up here on the list.

> 
> 2) Make revisions public
> 
> I don’t quite understand why RFC revisions are not public. I believe it 
> would be very helpful to see the diffs of the RFCs. Because then 
> everyone can see how and why a RFC evolved. Revisions could be listed 
> at the bottom; on click you see the diff. Perhaps it makes sense to 
> only apply this change to RFCs that would be proposed after this change 
> potentially will be accepted.

They were previously public and were restricted to logged-in users with 
https://github.com/php/web-wiki/commit/0e5a3029f95610ddb230a8bd3901875b9c4b82ee. 
My understanding is that this was done to fend off various scrapers, but 
I was not involved in that decision. I agree that having the diff 
publicly available would be useful.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus