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Hi,

On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 12:58=E2= =80=AFPM Gina P. Banyard <internals@gpb.moe> wrote:
I don't mind splitting the PR i= nto 2 different ones, one for __sleep() and the other one for = __wakeup(), but once again people are complaining that a 2/3 t= hreshold is seemingly not enough when it is not necessarily an easy thresho= ld to pass.

The complaint wasn&= #39;t that the=C2=A02/3 threshold is not enough. It was that the RFC missed some important= points and was in that sense misleading. The result was just narrowly pass= ing the threshold. So the point was that it's quite likely it wouldn= 9;t pass it if the RFC description was correct.

Regards

J= akub
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