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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:19:57 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] "Abstain" voting option for RFCs
To: Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net>
Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?= <tim@bastelstu.be>, 
	PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: dragoonis@gmail.com (Paul Dragoonis)

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 2:18=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2025 at 4:42=E2=80=AFPM Tim D=C3=BCsterhus <tim@bastelstu=
.be> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I just opened the vote for the "'Abstain' voting option for RFCs" policy
>> RFC:
>>
>> RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc_vote_abstain
>> Discussion: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128185
>> PR: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128185
>>
>> As with every RFC, a 2/3 majority is required. Voting ends 2025-08-31 at
>> 15:00:00 UTC.
>>
>> The vote already includes the =E2=80=9CAbstain=E2=80=9D option to dogfoo=
d the RFC and to
>> showcase how the voting widget will look like should the RFC be
>> accepted. Although it could be argued that selecting the =E2=80=9CAbstai=
n=E2=80=9D
>> option would be a vote in favor of having such an option, it will be
>> considered an abstention. Please vote =E2=80=9CYes=E2=80=9D if you are i=
n favor of the
>> RFC :-)
>>
>>
> I don't have issue with this. The only minor cosmetic thing is that it
> makes the table wider so it will more often not fit to the mobile screen
> and will need horizontal scroll. I think the solution for that could be t=
o
> remove that user name in brackets that just repeats the linked name - e.g
> bukka (bukka). That would be nice to do as part of the "implementation" f=
or
> this... :)
>

Good call about the table. I've been thinking of this for a while now.


> Regards
>
> Jakub
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 2:18=E2=80=
=AFPM Jakub Zelenka &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bukka@php.net">bukka@php.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 17, 2025 at 4:42=E2=80=AFPM Tim D=C3=BCsterhus =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tim@bastelstu.be" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">tim@bastelstu.be</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">Hi<br>
<br>
I just opened the vote for the &quot;&#39;Abstain&#39; voting option for RF=
Cs&quot; policy <br>
RFC:<br>
<br>
RFC: <a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc_vote_abstain" rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc_vote_abstain</=
a><br>
Discussion: <a href=3D"https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128185" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://news-web.php.net/php.i=
nternals/128185</a><br>
PR: <a href=3D"https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128185" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/1=
28185</a><br>
<br>
As with every RFC, a 2/3 majority is required. Voting ends 2025-08-31 at<br=
>
15:00:00 UTC.<br>
<br>
The vote already includes the =E2=80=9CAbstain=E2=80=9D option to dogfood t=
he RFC and to <br>
showcase how the voting widget will look like should the RFC be <br>
accepted. Although it could be argued that selecting the =E2=80=9CAbstain=
=E2=80=9D <br>
option would be a vote in favor of having such an option, it will be <br>
considered an abstention. Please vote =E2=80=9CYes=E2=80=9D if you are in f=
avor of the <br>
RFC :-)<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t have issue with=
 this. The only minor cosmetic thing is that it makes the table wider so it=
 will more often not fit to the mobile screen and will need horizontal scro=
ll. I think the solution for that could be to remove that user name in brac=
kets that just repeats the linked name - e.g bukka (bukka). That would be n=
ice to do as part of the &quot;implementation&quot; for this... :)</div></d=
iv></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Good call about the table. I&#39;ve been thinking of this for a while =
now.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><=
br></div><div>Jakub</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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