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Voting ends 2025-08-31 at > 15:00:00 UTC. > > The vote already includes the =E2=80=9CAbstain=E2=80=9D option to dogfood= the RFC and to > showcase how the voting widget will look like should the RFC be > accepted. Although it could be argued that selecting the =E2=80=9CAbstain= =E2=80=9D > option would be a vote in favor of having such an option, it will be > considered an abstention. Please vote =E2=80=9CYes=E2=80=9D if you are in= favor of the > RFC :-) > > I don't have issue with this. The only minor cosmetic thing is that it makes the table wider so it will more often not fit to the mobile screen and will need horizontal scroll. I think the solution for that could be to remove that user name in brackets that just repeats the linked name - e.g bukka (bukka). That would be nice to do as part of the "implementation" for this... :) Regards Jakub --00000000000044bff9063cb7a2a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Aug 17,= 2025 at 4:42=E2=80=AFPM Tim D=C3=BCsterhus <tim@bastelstu.be> wrote:
Hi

I just opened the vote for the "'Abstain' voting option for RF= Cs" policy
RFC:

RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rfc_vote_abstain
Discussion: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/12= 8185
PR: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128185
As with every RFC, a 2/3 majority is required. Voting ends 2025-08-31 at 15:00:00 UTC.

The vote already includes the =E2=80=9CAbstain=E2=80=9D option to dogfood t= he RFC and to
showcase how the voting widget will look like should the RFC be
accepted. Although it could be argued that selecting the =E2=80=9CAbstain= =E2=80=9D
option would be a vote in favor of having such an option, it will be
considered an abstention. Please vote =E2=80=9CYes=E2=80=9D if you are in f= avor of the
RFC :-)


I don't have issue with= this. The only minor cosmetic thing is that it makes the table wider so it= will more often not fit to the mobile screen and will need horizontal scro= ll. I think the solution for that could be to remove that user name in brac= kets that just repeats the linked name - e.g bukka (bukka). That would be n= ice to do as part of the "implementation" for this... :)

Regards

Jakub
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