Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128465 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF84D1A00BC for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:01:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1755097211; bh=J9R4tq0+g+/bzPt4Ww45oa60MSoNGgXAPaN4yC7/jjs=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=i4qFbMDC9tcSxp3C6HEbtPlEqDXyBbW/97BAqFTDaE3tcnQq4TQpKub7l7cOrbDff iusENTfH7x/QtJvc9OSJqHQnuwumAomoMJf0njTGHA4i5HizkXdC64N3AQ8cStV2xB 7qMk47ZJl3T8dWsdglp7zjpf78S8lZjNHEXeefFN0OEM/p80zCJ1sdGZ/XOGp+lIxY 2fnhatHtUGLhIeFSInsCZh3ky+92QZ/Nxzoj0hakZRtWoJ1MgkgUhliiZByWKK/i4t DWdUt5BA1mReUvv2S9zzT8E0ukBXlmSphSnq/ANi9JQQxhRWQzCREM/Bogx3/btJ2z gOvWDjzI1bHdA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C272180061 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:00:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_MISSING,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from premium76-5.web-hosting.com (premium76-5.web-hosting.com [162.213.255.108]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:00:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pmjones.io; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=J9R4tq0+g+/bzPt4Ww45oa60MSoNGgXAPaN4yC7/jjs=; b=6Z0SLaQUTOj4NG+MPTwjXANfT9 uLB3Nf4pHzej20dRb/EczNHl1ObWv6v2wbFnfqgSuqokXZISfa7+Twcv5udJNuyrwjVlDCfCycgND s3kmAn9o90FEhyZLoRwhJwCKxuD458baf2+qFYHA1ykoRX11NFM8r/H7wTfSLh08vOM9zS75kDFjT hnjG3AK3dQ4R+rxgY4GGoVP+TQYYpCBd/A6zUTOEFE/BMEBKb/28ipI7/M2KycujdNzr/H5y7CaVg b4aSpAYHmkbp9NY37h4c1UK9wPVvE24XyH2ooAvM4FCNalpbMGqXqyIl603PYEaeTA5afdHW9E8bc fRgh1QCA==; Received: from 107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net ([107.223.28.39]:62539 helo=smtpclient.apple) by premium76.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1umCz2-0000000CsbW-3an9; Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:01:44 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: list list-help: list-post: List-Id: x-ms-reactions: disallow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.5 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 10:01:31 -0500 Cc: "Christoph M. Becker" , Nicolas Grekas , "Gina P. Banyard" , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <629E1A83-34B6-4266-BC81-7626814056AA@pmjones.io> References: To: Kamil Tekiela X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - premium76.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pmjones.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: premium76.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Authenticated-Sender: premium76.web-hosting.com: pmjones@pmjones.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1umCz2-0000000CsbW-3an9 From: pmjones@pmjones.io ("Paul M. Jones") Hi all, > Can we propose to undeprecate it before the feature freeze? When one part of the Attributes v2 RFC did not work out as some wanted, = there was a re-vote: - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2 - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax_change So there's precedent for this kind of thing. -- pmj