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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 11:05:30 +0100 (BST)
To: Mathieu Rochette <mathieu@rochette.cc>
cc: PHP Systems <systems@php.net>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Headers of the PHP mailing lists
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From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

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Hi,

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025, Derick Rethans wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025, Mathieu Rochette wrote:
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> > And when working on that I noticed that PHP lists were wrongly sent=20
> > the mails with `Precedence: bulk`. Is this something that could be=20
> > fixed?
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> I can certainly change the "Precedence: bulk" header to "Precedence:=20
> list". I would have to do that for all our 124 lists, but I am=20
> moderately reluctant in doing this, as Google is being annoying=20
> requiring specific things for email delivery, and I don't want to=20
> upset them again.
> >=20
> > Also, the List-ID is not properly formatted, it's supposed to be=20
> > wrapped in angle brackets but it's not, so instead of `List-Id:=20
> > internals.lists.php.net`=C2=A0it should be=C2=A0`List-Id:=20
> > <internals.lists.php.net`> or even=C2=A0``List-Id: PHP=C2=A0Internals=
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> > list=C2=A0<internals.lists.php.net> to give it a human friendly name.
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> We can easily change the List-Id header too, as long as I don't need=20
> to add a manual description to all 124 of them. So for now, I would=20
> suggest to change them to "List-Id: <internals.lists.php.net>". Would=20
> that work?

I have now made these changes:

- Added the <> around the value of List-Id.
- Changed "Precedence: bulk" to "Precendence: list"

If Gmail decides not to deliver email, then, I suppose that's their=20
problem.

cheers,
Derick
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