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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Optional Catch Block Body
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From: rob@bottled.codes ("Rob Landers")

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2025, at 17:33, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> On 31/07/2025 15:17, Rob Landers wrote:
> > They're not used for flow control, or state. They merely force PHP t=
o=20
> > unwind the stack to a known place
>=20
>=20
> I don't understand the distinction here; you want to continue code at =
a=20
> particular point (control flow), and unwind the stack (state managemen=
t).

Unconditionally, yes. This is more like a bailout of user code, not thro=
wing the exception would enter an infinite loop or cause an error. So, i=
t=E2=80=99s kind of a gray area between flow control and exceptional.=20

>=20
> That doesn't mean your use case isn't valid, but it's like saying "it'=
s=20
> not a knife, it's merely a sharpened metallic implement used to cut th=
ings".
>=20
> --=20
> Rowan Tommins
> [IMSoP]
>=20

lol. Fair enough.=20

=E2=80=94 Rob
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>On Thu, Jul 31, 2025, at 17:33, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] =
wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div>On 31/07=
/2025 15:17, Rob Landers wrote:</div><div>&gt; They're not used for flow=
 control, or state. They merely force PHP to&nbsp;</div><div>&gt; unwind=
 the stack to a known place</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I do=
n't understand the distinction here; you want to continue code at a&nbsp=
;</div><div>particular point (control flow), and unwind the stack (state=
 management).</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Unconditionally, yes=
. This is more like a bailout of user code, not throwing the exception w=
ould enter an infinite loop or cause an error. So, it=E2=80=99s kind of =
a gray area between flow control and exceptional.&nbsp;</div><div><br></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div><br></div><div>T=
hat doesn't mean your use case isn't valid, but it's like saying "it's&n=
bsp;</div><div>not a knife, it's merely a sharpened metallic implement u=
sed to cut things".</div><div><br></div><div>--&nbsp;</div><div>Rowan To=
mmins</div><div>[IMSoP]</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div>lol. Fair enough.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"sig121229152=
">=E2=80=94 Rob</div></body></html>
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