Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128294 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1A31A00BC for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 12:06:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1753790694; bh=tt/zVg4vLjzoqd2QhkUrVEamNqGkfifqeKpKb4/W6iE=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=E6Z8Xg4B2bpxXjUyc3tb6DAF1zpHOQsJMuSpOv+Z9pNWiqhzxjKjQQmu3zHxtI4ej 7WSDqNniHSYoGgAvSJnQJHiEoI2zBz1ZK2NEPFcfvsHh9+4MTqIVXEYSP5NohdL1NY Kuymc5gseSj1QDtR+IY/Tc0hLjzXTHxtZHvrtlFLqHGe6nnbh0gbX+RPjNJ926xL7o VnsNBFyYIFLBhJzdeS6ytVk9Qp/4jMGPqFGwz08d4u/PooXnw5pY/ZtvB6WsleczC0 z8zuIEmmRoUmBfeIzTTsjXyaYeVS4GY8mIypoP1/Gqm14UbYkVrZ6UJ7w1QTM7g7tc HYwBT7ACMYeJw== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B4318006C for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 12:04:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DMARC_NONE, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f173.google.com (mail-oi1-f173.google.com [209.85.167.173]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 12:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-40a4de1753fso477725b6e.1 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 05:06:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1753790795; x=1754395595; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=tt/zVg4vLjzoqd2QhkUrVEamNqGkfifqeKpKb4/W6iE=; b=SsJdBZzD2k2emYqXpSrWX5q0itBZ9Je3/q9ehTYMYtlyOvvFVh4/tJN5ObSPksJ+qp M0ohky/Xw1xEdYMoIdG26DyvRkhsQB2627zdjec3LXkVEnnpERCucxKn+yZa76L+DTCU Fn3rPkwkXKb0/ku7VtHBObLoZ8Qqo/o0FDV+oQ1IVGVmlTlP49IOWTRj0OH4KhYvPpOx VwcONfJ86GQWR/MN9hQBoQ3mE9hsrQOykdHTRztvIl15prMrwtvXVJXrY0xk8ttS9/pw he/85sT4u5tT1GetJAH7hYpvHBHmg4UbLloY+Af/QOrSWW5GbSeRyhJuBvJDpL5mN1dz WLFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxZ6BiK03VYNgmeCBFW4Jhjc/ClapHSrOLHlBf6uBnon6yC3l9g YGeWFbAYHaf1BO/6PiZOKL8qmsnYvOlzydFsKdoycnRt6D1cbZPsh9+9xglLPQMZasQ7x2Mu8us Eez9ttZT4rCc886XYM1VuiXAMs2hu9NjloA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvnxTAnum0nR7nL6/MrLIpyXUAFBhkJcKvewUUcu2qg0TauMIA5YbFwBBYnxmB zcMe8FLavfgtdg6pCu5dxCalubAvPPrrsF+ItH8NRxFdXgEmxIfOEvD/sokwAGtU0JSxIDE/gU5 /EKBrsk93S/FjYyJmWxNvsvQcWWK0ZZLW/Sh+RaK7zCCID4v3gkz9UKjVpb+SO0bVOLzRE+uTd0 ON5b4w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE7YFsUY0RFUSRTzVqpLPReBKu7YSFTIkAFOEU/cyvE/h6W1/ohMMSTmqVGHeuPiGgftrYzuXEb2hqkkqvD/l8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:4fe4:b0:406:6aa1:38d9 with SMTP id 5614622812f47-43059f759a3mr1943852b6e.13.1753790794988; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 05:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 14:06:23 +0200 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXyc_oY31mTNMCRqv6D8ky6pDBlT9ssPN4IIfVra8GiBDVnPdrDmeY7X3SQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Warnings for PHP 8.5 To: "Gina P. Banyard" Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000058820c063b103d58" From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka) --00000000000058820c063b103d58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:07=E2=80=AFAM Gina P. Banyard wrote: > Hello internals, > > I have opened the votes for the warnings: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/warnings-php-8-5 > > Just for the record I voted No on those isset and empty warnings as I don't think they should be emitting warning in this case - it might be quite surprising for users and have a BC impact for them (e.g. they might be checking output from internals functions where false is returned and currently they don't need to care for that which I think make more sense for those functions). Kind regards, Jakub --00000000000058820c063b103d58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:0= 7=E2=80=AFAM Gina P. Banyard <internals@gpb.moe> wrote:
Hello internals,

I have opened the votes for the warnings:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/warnings-php-8-5


Just for the record I voted No on thos= e isset and empty warnings as I don't think they should be emitting war= ning in this case - it might be quite surprising for users and have a BC im= pact for them (e.g. they might be checking output from internals functions = where false is returned and currently they don't need to care for that = which I think make more sense for those functions).

Kind regards,

Jakub
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