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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Warnings for PHP 8.5
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From: rob@bottled.codes ("Rob Landers")

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, at 13:16, Alexandru P=C4=83tr=C4=83nescu wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 12:18=E2=80=AFPM Rob Landers <rob@bottled.code=
s> wrote:
>> __
>>=20
>> I am not sure that (int)"INF" or (int)"NAN" is misbehaving. (int)"Pas=
sword" also produces `0`, and these are strings. If we had the time to d=
iscuss it properly, I would argue that simply warning when casting a str=
ing to int is the most sensible thing, just like we get an error when co=
ercing a string to int, which is more consistent across the language tha=
n just special casing some strings.
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> This is about INF and NAN, the float values, not the strings "INF" and=
 "NAN".
> https://3v4l.org/fAFn3
>=20
> -- Alex=20

Thanks Alex, I missed that nuance!

=E2=80=94 Rob
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>On Tue, Jul 29, 2025, at 13:16, Alexandru P=C4=83tr=C4=
=83nescu wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qt-gmail_quote qt-=
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"qt-gmail_attr">On Tue, =
Jul 29, 2025 at 12:18=E2=80=AFPM Rob Landers &lt;rob@bottled.codes&gt; w=
rote:</div><blockquote class=3D"qt-gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top:0px;=
margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1=
px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-=
left:1ex;"><div><u></u><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>I am not sure =
that (int)"INF" or (int)"NAN" is misbehaving. (int)"Password" also produ=
ces `0`, and these are strings. If we had the time to discuss it properl=
y, I would argue that simply warning when casting a string to int is the=
 most sensible thing, just like we get an error when coercing a string t=
o int, which is more consistent across the language than just special ca=
sing some strings.</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"qt-m_-6787851740426474=
125sig121229152"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>T=
his is about INF and NAN, the float values, not the strings "INF" and "N=
AN".</div><div><a href=3D"https://3v4l.org/fAFn3">https://3v4l.org/fAFn3=
</a></div></div><div><div><br></div><div>-- Alex&nbsp;</div></div></div>=
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks Alex, I missed that nuance=
!</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"sig121229152">=E2=80=94 Rob</div></body=
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