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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 20:54:35 +0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [DISCUSSION] User-land Throwable
To: Dmitry Derepko <xepozzd@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: tekiela246@gmail.com (Kamil Tekiela)

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On Mon 28 Jul 2025, 20:50 Dmitry Derepko, <xepozzd@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 3:26=E2=80=AFPM Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes> w=
rote:
>
>>
>> Wouldn=E2=80=99t a better approach be to allow serializing/deserializing
>> exceptions?
>>
>> =E2=80=94 Rob
>>
>
> It would look like another workaround to my case. Same as deserializing
> data into a class to write into a private property.
> The simpler the better: just allow users to set their own trace. Or not
> set it at all.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Dmitrii Derepko.
> @xepozz
>



I still don't understand what real life use case this solves. Maybe you
already explained it but I didn't get it. IMHO the trace should be set by
the engine and it should not be possible to overwrite the getTrace method.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon 28 Jul 2025, 20:50 Dmitry=
 Derepko, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xepozzd@gmail.com">xepozzd@gmail.com</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 3:26=E2=80=AFPM Rob Landers &lt;rob@bottle=
d.codes&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div><div><br></div><div>Wouldn=E2=80=99t a better approach be to allow seri=
alizing/deserializing exceptions?</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"m_-6814593=
691446507067m_7929006907957325434sig121229152">=E2=80=94 Rob</div></div></b=
lockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div>It would look like anothe=
r workaround to my case. Same as deserializing data into a class to write i=
nto a private property.</div><div>The simpler the=C2=A0better: just allow u=
sers to set their own trace. Or not set it at all.</div><div><br></div><spa=
n class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best r=
egards,</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Dmitrii Derepko.</div><div><a rel=3D"noreferrer">@xepozz</a></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">I still don&#39;t understand what real life use case this solves. Ma=
ybe you already explained it but I didn&#39;t get it. IMHO the trace should=
 be set by the engine and it should not be possible to overwrite the getTra=
ce method.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quo=
te_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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