Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128243 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30BA01A00BC for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:09:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1753621691; bh=D+8SDzK22Yx/e5BlSLA/6x3HdFlp4hXaoajZ9MSjPo4=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=Dh1nEgpojG4euK4dISKWleyePyUpls47IhSPeJBECT42fhfT/wdvyvQmXMYJZ6kV5 42Ode5C1lWsFxu9rPJxTapcvDI8tsRroebTxIE6G4T29Em7izcVDl4I9/kKs/mY2mw I2f/b4KTfr4VVgQfIa69ugl/Xgmez2gHhgtG5VQ0KPhyx4p43uQSRCAq5HGjp3+jrX nHoppsT74cBnpZD6OXyTra64+yCJV/eyPwIaAJAKxVKbNEdte9mmhc6/53ohDSolOE CVVLxh0l/AiuPGVWfzSnbSzw+vaCIDBOyfZJ12gF01YjQcs5fZC9JF5EXd3tdGIaF2 VSd/+oUsjSB9w== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C2E1801E3 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:08:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:08:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1753621791; bh=N5W5t9ZQwBxSErNZNcpdzAc3VczFZK44C3ivQakj3z8=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=Al8aV1egM/PKHwoDwi1gMh9qonbdUZsaxissyGCKmlWauT5525wTSFzviFALbKaol FAhPNEj5AhXo2Gb7ohD6EhxFtLsEILFxUTTdFux2HA/JZDE1rOYGJzNoqxBM9Pb/aG IYBHORIdCsmY18kaFCzkjOzYs5MQb2adB3zA6i8ivmfXdxVbvpb6xj8HGEP19mdeUA EqqBZsKr3Bmd+q0+EumF760QOzbVw5zkaw2znV1Gmi57qX9AvwNpXqSB2AsXGPyloI GtI+b3FI23/iZgAIM7dd2CdFw8Gsunsl7Tyq7GZepR079w/GOzMhVnGk7nU94nRtAK GmFPIuSFLyHdQ== Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2025 15:09:50 +0200 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] "Abstain" voting option for RFCs To: Larry Garfield , php internals References: <7afc0ac1-3446-459a-a67a-e616afe750f6@app.fastmail.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi On 7/24/25 15:42, Larry Garfield wrote: > Just to clarify here, Single Transferable Vote and Ranked Choice Voting are the same thing. I think it's just another Ameircan-vs-British English question. :-) My understanding is that “Ranked Choice Voting” is a generic term of which “Single Transferable Vote” is a specific implementation. I specifically do not want to allow any other implementations than the one the PHP project is already comfortable with using. > How about this, as a following paragraph: > > As an STV example, a secondary vote using STV and having 5 "Foo", 4 "Bar", 8 "Baz", and 9 "Abstain" first-choice votes has no majority, so will go to a second round. "Bar" will be eliminated and those votes redistributed to second-choice options. If for example the second round result is 6 "Foo", 9 "Baz", and 11 "Abstain", then Baz will have won as it has a clear majority of non-Abstain votes cast. That is quite verbose and requires two assumptions to be made, making it hard to follow when not already knowing how STV works. I think it will confuse more than it helps. Best regards Tim Düsterhus