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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:20:21 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Oniguruma maintenance was ended on 2025-04-24
To: Calvin Buckley <calvin@cmpct.info>
Cc: Peter Kokot <petk@php.net>, youkidearitai <youkidearitai@gmail.com>, internals@lists.php.net
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From: petk@php.net (Peter Kokot)

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 15:09, Calvin Buckley <calvin@cmpct.info> wrote:

> On Jul 22, 2025, at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM, Peter Kokot <petk@php.net> wrote:
> >
> > I still think that Oniguruma needs to be bundled to make builds simpler=
.
> Deprecating this part of the mbstring extension will take until PHP 9 to =
be
> able to remove it (at least according to current PHP practices -
> deprecation and removal phase). And in the meantime PHP can be at least
> built with Oniguruma. Otherwise, there will be a situation where PHP 8.5
> will have the option to enable mbregex functionality, while Oniguruma can=
't
> be found in the distribution packages (not downloadable through packages)=
.
> If these functions can be replaced with the PCRE regular expressions,
> that's fantastic.
>
> I'm not sure if distros will drop oniguruma just yet. It's a reasonably
> popular dependency, and decrepit libraries are shipped by distros all
> the time (i.e. c-client...). To say nothing of maintenance being
> picked up someone.


Here it's marked as deprecated and has expiration date:
https://www.freshports.org/devel/oniguruma/

Well, of course not anywhere soon and everywhere, but eventually probably.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 at 15:09, Calvin Buckley =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:calvin@cmpct.info">calvin@cmpct.info</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Jul 22, 2025, =
at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM, Peter Kokot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:petk@php.net" target=
=3D"_blank">petk@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I still think that Oniguruma needs to be bundled to make builds simple=
r. Deprecating this part of the mbstring extension will take until PHP 9 to=
 be able to remove it (at least according to current PHP practices - deprec=
ation and removal phase). And in the meantime PHP can be at least built wit=
h Oniguruma. Otherwise, there will be a situation where PHP 8.5 will have t=
he option to enable mbregex functionality, while Oniguruma can&#39;t be fou=
nd in the distribution packages (not downloadable through packages). If the=
se functions can be replaced with the PCRE regular expressions, that&#39;s =
fantastic.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not sure if distros will drop oniguruma just yet. It&#39;s a reason=
ably<br>
popular dependency, and decrepit libraries are shipped by distros all<br>
the time (i.e. c-client...). To say nothing of maintenance being<br>
picked up someone.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here it&#39;s marked as =
deprecated and has expiration date: <a href=3D"https://www.freshports.org/d=
evel/oniguruma/">https://www.freshports.org/devel/oniguruma/</a>=C2=A0<br><=
br></div><div>Well, of course not anywhere soon and everywhere, but eventua=
lly probably.</div></div></div>

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