Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128158 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AC4A1A00BC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 10:36:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1753094057; bh=gtCN3fTtZM0wfP+J1JLzZtLUFtFZsvFl0/G0CR/6SnU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=LW+1wYaIkmDo/3l/AZENz8L9kYmiCzBIwJRcUvQnnvHnXmsh4n2vuV3QiGyj7EL3d 4yYPtrS6Ck+JgVVPmzoGmBZGnfop+kPsgtXQhNHySfHCdYT7Qr5eLeNDMfoLKi0C0k T8wKFn8tdm9BYv69cGpEwMZjJ4Vi/Nqd8GyFDPmPLR84n8H7NlE7wIe4yh/18poTPE Tp3DFiV1jShP1vjNSVNBvwPFiVBjTNzIPn5iC7HXVVzdBL0aAnn+AdEVJOEGNeks9o xxTCQR2uHZXch+O2cFgo/MvB3kx42xurmUxbaXMadi2TXXWGXfXkudEXeUdyraVQ6D 2VuIOI/h1UUjg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952F118006C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2025 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1753094158; bh=AnEVxCQLtGJMz5WYYGSq+/qna9ReV6xVbXSJBzakINU=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=grX8k6AK3I5M2ozti3Vijf+Ur6C3CoKYj0bvsWMHOA6UXb9G5pbweViJ/qPw7uAAN zwNhMwZXjmkLPpDQ4XZUkNjzUZjjEHtm7IduCqftIHbbpiXnUXuWwjMA4RwuU28O16 A45xNGwaVXhBSOPeM99Jms0Uxb0XLLJgMIDOSU6gCIywe17x2+esFGUOqtC8s1Ww8w 1uLr7Jb+5WifKEpKlSoKagnHcwF0UYZPFcSH1/eW7ZY+iE10WSNk4Q/JVdKbK9NlHE xheGkDoMEhScEaQY/33ZWErEbPz48qqL7o1QmHTpx/iwr/ggOq1eE/BCGq8xI+y3em 8xJv26ytDPnaw== Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:35:57 +0200 To: Nick Cc: Niels Dossche , php internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Readonly property hooks In-Reply-To: References: <1e8634d7-ac1a-4025-b4e2-1948aabf5251@app.fastmail.com> <13B58381-AA61-4D38-A688-DD9E367ADE6F@nicksdot.dev> <96e0ea70-291e-4f0a-b449-acbaef16c099@bastelstu.be> <76059dd0-d27a-4207-9460-658175f54a99@app.fastmail.com> <5A1B6BCB-97AC-4D50-A38C-C7EE394E4EE1@nicksdot.dev> Message-ID: <026011349b0b1fe4dda34b69997f8f45@bastelstu.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi Am 2025-07-21 10:29, schrieb Nick: > I saw you voted “no” for `get` (expected, and understandable), and > decided to be abstinent to `set`. > I double checked the full RFC discussion. > You asked four times explicitly, and one time indirectly, to allow > `set` but not `get`. > Would you mind to elaborate why you decided to not vote “yes” for what > you asked for? I don't think I did ask *for* set(). I said I didn't see (obvious) problems with set(), in other words I said that I wasn't against it. See also https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/128123. Best regards Tim Düsterhus