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From: Marc Bennewitz <marc@mabe.berlin>
To: Hanz <zaunere@gmail.com>
Cc: php internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Drop support for 32bit builds
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    <p><br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 21.07.25 00:05, Hanz wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hello, my two cents,</div>
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          <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at
            9:09=E2=80=AFPM Marc Bennewitz <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc23=
96E" href=3D"mailto:marc@mabe.berlin">&lt;marc@mabe.berlin&gt;</a> wrote:=
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padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
            <br>
            During the discussion about the year 2038 issue it turned
            out that maybe <br>
            it's time to drop support for 32-bit of PHP completely.<br>
            <br>
            Based on that I have created an RFC to deprecate 32-bit
            build in 8.next <br>
            and drop support for it in 9.<br>
            <br>
            RFC: <a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/drop_32bit_support"
              rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"tru=
e"
              class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/dr=
op_32bit_support</a></blockquote>
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          <div>I'd hate to see PHP cut itself out of 32bit, especially
            with workloads getting device specific "on the edge", and
            heavy loads moving in to different components; the lightness
            of 32 IMHO will be an asset.=C2=A0 I think too it'd put a bur=
den
            on the tiny-container approach.=C2=A0 Way back, we were <a
              href=3D"https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/12974"
              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">excited</a>=C2=A0but most of it wa=
s
            Apache.</div>
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          </div>
          <div>I guess it'd be a drag to maintain two branches but maybe
            an option.=C2=A0 To be honest, the only processes I see over =
4gb,
            even these days, are browsers. :)</div>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>I just send out an update, that - for now - I'll not continue on
      that RFC.<br>
      Actually not because of "especially with workloads getting device
      specific 'on the edge'" because this is a niche case a vote should
      decide if it's worth it.</p>
    <p>I'm not sure what you mean with "tiny-container approach" and the
      old ML thread of supporting 64-bit builds but I hope I clarified
      this part already in my previous mail.<br>
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          <div>Best,</div>
          <div>Hans</div>
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    </blockquote>
    Regards,<br>
    Marc<br>
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