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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 15:50:28 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP8.5] Feature freeze in 4 weeks
To: Volker Dusch <edorian@php.net>
Cc: internals@lists.php.net, daniel.e.scherzer@gmail.com, pierrick@php.net
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From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka)

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 4:12=E2=80=AFPM Volker Dusch <edorian@php.net> wrot=
e:

> Hi everyone,
>
> we would like to remind you that *the feature freeze for PHP 8.5 is in
> ~4weeks on Tuesday, August 12* [1]
>
> The feature freeze for php-src means that we will not accept any new
> features after the date of the feature freeze. For any RFCs to be include=
d
> in the new version, they should be discussed and have the voting polls
> closed no later than the feature freeze date.
>
> Thank you everyone for your work.
>
> Your 8.5 RMs,
> Volker, Daniel and Pierrick
>
> [1]: Timeline: https://wiki.php.net/todo/php85
>
>
 Just to note here that this is actually incorrect and does not reflect the
changes in release flow that happened relatively recently [1] and are also
in our policy [2]. This is due to the fact that we have not updated release
manager docs. We are just discussing internally how to best fix this.

Effectively the real feature freeze now happens with RC1 release on Sep 25
2025. The beta1 release is just a deadline for all RFC's that target PHP
8.5 to be decided (voting needs to end before this time).

[1]
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update#allow_features_that_do_not_re=
quire_an_rfc_in_the_beta_period
[2]
https://github.com/php/policies/blob/06ef24434942f3b09241ccbde124b83ca8a180=
42/release-process.rst#beta-releases

Kind regards,

Jakub

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 4:12=E2=80=AFPM Volker Dusch =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edorian@php.net">edorian@php.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif">Hi everyone,</span><br></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans=
-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">we would lik=
e to remind you that <b>the feature freeze for PHP 8.5 is in ~4weeks on Tue=
sday, August 12</b> [1]</font></div><div><br></div><div>The feature freeze =
for php-src means that we will not accept any new features after the date o=
f the feature freeze. For any RFCs to be included in the new version, they =
should be discussed and have the voting polls closed no later than the feat=
ure freeze date.=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank=C2=A0you everyone=
 for your work.<br></div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font><=
/div><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Your 8.5 RMs,</font></div><div><=
font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Volker, Daniel and=C2=A0</font>Pierrick</di=
v><div><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D=
"arial, sans-serif">[1]: Timeline:=C2=A0</font><a href=3D"https://wiki.php.=
net/todo/php85" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/todo/php85</a></div>=
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0Just to note he=
re that this is actually incorrect and does not reflect the changes in rele=
ase flow that happened relatively recently [1] and are also in our policy [=
2]. This is due to the fact that we have not updated release manager docs. =
We are just discussing internally how to best fix this.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Effectively the real feature freeze now happens with RC1 release on=
=C2=A0Sep 25 2025. The beta1 release is just a deadline for all RFC&#39;s t=
hat target PHP 8.5 to be decided (voting needs to end before this time).</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>[1]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release=
_cycle_update#allow_features_that_do_not_require_an_rfc_in_the_beta_period"=
>https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update#allow_features_that_do_not_r=
equire_an_rfc_in_the_beta_period</a></div><div>[2]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://=
github.com/php/policies/blob/06ef24434942f3b09241ccbde124b83ca8a18042/relea=
se-process.rst#beta-releases">https://github.com/php/policies/blob/06ef2443=
4942f3b09241ccbde124b83ca8a18042/release-process.rst#beta-releases</a></div=
><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jakub</div></di=
v></div>

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