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Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:29:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: T4f89d8b0d22bc674 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 08:29:31 -0500 To: "php internals" Message-ID: <46e0c98a-2003-442c-9f8f-16c8fa0476f0@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19f52640-970e-d2a4-e313-6108d3876c1b@php.net> References: <19f52640-970e-d2a4-e313-6108d3876c1b@php.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, at 5:36 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM Gina P. Banyard wrote: >>=20 >> > It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of=20 >> > deprecations to add in PHP 8.5: >> > >> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5 >> >> Here are few notes on the ones that I don't agree with: >>=20 >> > Deprecate backticks as an alias for shell_exec >>=20 >> I think this might be too big BC break that might impact many scripts=20 >> - would be good to see also if it impacts OSS projects. I guess it=20 >> will impact even more non public code bases. > > Indeed, I use this *all the time* in quick hacky shell scripts in PHP.=20 > Best practise? Definitely not. But it certainly is very useful. Is their use for quick hacky scripts worth the cost of reserving a symbo= l that could be repurposed for something else more generally useful in t= he future? (Not immediately of course, but eventually.) --Larry Garfield