Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:128030 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by lists.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03CC21A00BC for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:36:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1752489276; bh=4RNVpGeMaxzOOrnzPvM1AAcJwU8FyuSmzc2nVs4Zp0A=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=E8LDfTRVnBQuf+JRvgeF6Q1cC8VEiiLkrktxtkX/gjn9Jp4iZoQqHlpzacKMwAmhz q20TvCwiKd4MwLyywrhmOWMWlgGRyVpmkdjHvmOWv3SM0VxvXZ7mwQY8++Re/yIaqT AdIchoIAiPLl4Y9V7Jw5DV1884VqJBVVRxaN5L7ryX6frJlmQN+W8oZXTqyEeW7g4Q 09isqKrZqafgjVD9zNazNGQnCJJSgUFrSD+iZXAUrfga0r1i+j5hmTFksHEBdxMazB GROqXIsnTe7SYqtkHS7bUuhH8qGKXGqP37jlP1sRwCq+doY7Lz9eFDWQmdTE2Jjr4r PhNgqP4RTXd0w== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2BB1801DE for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:34:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:34:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1752489381; bh=4RNVpGeMaxzOOrnzPvM1AAcJwU8FyuSmzc2nVs4Zp0A=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ODV9bdk1n/PBEqdyu6ZC8TOIy3v9nkWn7y7LNfTKEFRd1YlNI9tJfjrFPbKsFhA2J NsKfYcCX6CSqWVgZZi+1tUUobooSgcD36k5QKZmNuawdT9Iord+3Mj349daURDWX55 40UdxL80BCbSYgmSA+gjuTVFg8rNdvXtmkBtyBxYzxI6QzJFWFlBpQkgdzUQuHIznK KZoR2dRHaswpwTgGRCg6o16VBMLBblx7rAl6T2d75lzwSIDxVCPjcxr4swHlWCgeVq uQ0k1UqyXBf6WPB+Soo/0fUnCEjrWbBULGDWp+l0iiAiV6Dcx9xSxzzsRabxrn3HnS 1iEDXhs8lhwyA== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263BC10C033; Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:36:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:36:20 +0100 (BST) To: Jakub Zelenka cc: "Gina P. Banyard" , PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19f52640-970e-d2a4-e313-6108d3876c1b@php.net> References: Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-563092468-1752489381=:52945" From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-563092468-1752489381=:52945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM Gina P. Banyard wrote: >=20 > > It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of=20 > > deprecations to add in PHP 8.5: > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5 > > Here are few notes on the ones that I don't agree with: >=20 > > Deprecate backticks as an alias for shell_exec >=20 > I think this might be too big BC break that might impact many scripts=20 > - would be good to see also if it impacts OSS projects. I guess it=20 > will impact even more non public code bases. Indeed, I use this *all the time* in quick hacky shell scripts in PHP.=20 Best practise? Definitely not. But it certainly is very useful. > > Deprecate the error_prepend_string and error_append_string INI=20 > > directives >=20 > I think it doesn't have a good enough reason to be deprecated and=20 > might be still used. I don't see any problem with keeping them. +1 cheers, Derick --8323329-563092468-1752489381=:52945--