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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2025 19:00:07 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5
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From: bobwei9@hotmail.com (Bob Weinand)

Hey Tim,

On 6.7.2025 15:35:16, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
> Hi
>
> Since this is a recurring thing, I feel compelled to point out 
> terminology: A deprecation in itself is not a breaking change.
>
Let me disagree with this. Yes, a deprecation in *itself* doesn't break 
running code. However it is both a) an annoyance (you want to get rid of 
deprecations) and b) a promise that it will be eventually broken.

So, it requires a code change, maybe not immediately, but it will. And 
that's what we're getting at. It will break real code, just not right now.

And there's not always a point in breaking real code for the sake of 
"this might be potentially confusing".

(And for the feature in question, I do disagree that it's confusing, but 
that's not the point of this mail.)


Bob