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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 23:52:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5
To: "Gina P. Banyard" <internals@gpb.moe>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: petk@php.net (Peter Kokot)

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On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 at 22:40, Gina P. Banyard <internals@gpb.moe> wrote:

> Hello internals,
>
> It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of deprecations to
> add in PHP 8.5:
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5
>
> As a reminder, this list has been compiled over the course of the past
> year by various different people.
>
> And as usual, each deprecation will be voted in isolation.
>
> We still have a bit of time buffer, so if anyone else has any suggestions,
> they are free to add them to the RFC.
>
> Some should be non-controversial, others a bit more.
> If such, they might warrant their own dedicated RFC, or be dropped from
> the proposal altogether.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gina P. Banyard
>

I'd also suggest deprecating building ext/readline with the Readline
library and
ext/dba with the GDBM library.

These two libraries are released under the GPL-3 license, which is not
compatible with PHP. In practice this means that PHP linked with
GPL-3-licensed
software should not be distributed, making it impractical for any server
environment beyond a local testing project. This issue isn't immediately
obvious, but many packagers need to be aware of it and avoid building with
these
libraries.

ext/readline works fine with the Editline library as an alternative,
ext/dba works fine with other handlers.

This suggestion would otherwise delay resolving the issue, as it would
require
an RFC vote - something I hoped to avoid in pull requests. But I suppose
that's
how it has to be handled.

See also:
- https://github.com/php/php-src/issues/15882
- https://github.com/php/php-src/issues/16826
- https://www.php.net/license/contrib-guidelines-code.php

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 at 22:40, Gina P. Banyard =
&lt;internals@gpb.moe&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex">Hello internals,<br>
<br>
It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of deprecations to a=
dd in PHP 8.5:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5</a><br>
<br>
As a reminder, this list has been compiled over the course of the past year=
 by various different people.<br>
<br>
And as usual, each deprecation will be voted in isolation.<br>
<br>
We still have a bit of time buffer, so if anyone else has any suggestions, =
they are free to add them to the RFC.<br>
<br>
Some should be non-controversial, others a bit more.<br>
If such, they might warrant their own dedicated RFC, or be dropped from the=
 proposal altogether.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Gina P. Banyard<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;d also suggest de=
precating building ext/readline with the Readline library and<br>ext/dba wi=
th the GDBM library.<br><br>These two libraries are released under the GPL-=
3 license, which is not<br>compatible with PHP. In practice this means that=
 PHP linked with GPL-3-licensed<br>software should not be distributed, maki=
ng it impractical for any server<br>environment beyond a local testing proj=
ect. This issue isn&#39;t immediately<br>obvious, but many packagers need t=
o be aware of it and avoid building with these<br>libraries.<br><br>ext/rea=
dline works fine with the Editline library as an alternative,<br>ext/dba wo=
rks fine with other handlers.<br><br>This suggestion would otherwise delay =
resolving the issue, as it would require<br>an RFC vote - something I hoped=
 to avoid in pull requests. But I suppose that&#39;s<br>how it has to be ha=
ndled.<br><br>See also:<br>- <a href=3D"https://github.com/php/php-src/issu=
es/15882">https://github.com/php/php-src/issues/15882</a><br>- <a href=3D"h=
ttps://github.com/php/php-src/issues/16826">https://github.com/php/php-src/=
issues/16826</a><br>- <a href=3D"https://www.php.net/license/contrib-guidel=
ines-code.php">https://www.php.net/license/contrib-guidelines-code.php</a><=
br></div></div></div>

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