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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 18:50:49 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5
To: "Gina P. Banyard" <internals@gpb.moe>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka)

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM Gina P. Banyard <internals@gpb.moe>=
 wrote:

> Hello internals,
>
> It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of deprecations to
> add in PHP 8.5:
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5
>
>
Looking at it again I think this huge deprecation RFC is not the right
approach. I'm not sure what are we trying to do here but I was just
checking how many deprecation had few previous versions and

PHP-8.3 - 5 deprecations - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_3
PHP-8.4 - 22 deprecations - https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_4

And this one is 46. I know that there were few independent RFC's but that's
a huge increase anyway and I'm not really sure it's a good idea to do that
many in a single release.

It is also not convenient for discussion in a single thread which we can be
seen already. I'm not saying there should be an RFC for each deprecation
but maybe having at least RFC for each section would be better as it would
allow properly consider each of those depredations. Or somehow split to
some logical chunks...

Kind regards,

Jakub

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM G=
ina P. Banyard &lt;internals@gpb.moe&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
">Hello internals,<br>
<br>
It is this time of year again where we proposed a list of deprecations to a=
dd in PHP 8.5:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_5</a><br><b=
r></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Looking at it again I think this huge de=
precation RFC is not the right approach. I&#39;m not sure what are we tryin=
g to do here but I was just checking how many deprecation had few previous =
versions and</div><div><br></div><div>PHP-8.3 - 5 deprecations -=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_3">https://wiki.php.net/r=
fc/deprecations_php_8_3</a></div><div>PHP-8.4 - 22 deprecations -=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_4">https://wiki.php.net/=
rfc/deprecations_php_8_4</a></div><div><br></div><div>And this one is 46. I=
 know that there were few independent RFC&#39;s but that&#39;s a huge incre=
ase anyway and I&#39;m not really sure it&#39;s a good idea to do that many=
 in a single release.=C2=A0</div><div><br>It is also not convenient for dis=
cussion in a single thread which we can be seen already. I&#39;m not saying=
 there should be an RFC for each deprecation but maybe having at least RFC =
for each section would be better as it would allow properly consider each o=
f those depredations. Or somehow split to some logical chunks...</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Jakub</div></div></di=
v>

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