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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:21:31 +0200
To: =?UTF-8?Q?Alexandru_P=C4=83tr=C4=83nescu?= <drealecs@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Year 2038 issue
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From: rob@bottled.codes ("Rob Landers")

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On Mon, Jun 16, 2025, at 16:54, Alexandru P=C4=83tr=C4=83nescu wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 4:03=E2=80=AFPM Marc Bennewitz <marc@mabe.berl=
in> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>=20
>> It's 12.5 years only until the timestamps in PHP on 32bit will not wo=
rk=20
>> as expected anymore.
>>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I think that maybe we can already deprecate supporting 32 bit builds.
> And, maybe with PHP 9, or PHP 10, or with a future version that might =
exist in about 6/7 years, completely drop 32 bits support.
>=20
> As far as I checked a bit, all major OSs where PHP could run already d=
ropped or will drop support for 32 bits builds.
> I expect that at some point even the linux kernel will drop support.
>=20
> The impacted runtimes will probably be very low.
>=20
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> Alex
>=20

100% agree. We are already running out of space on some bitmasks (there =
are a couple with exactly one bit left, or even none in the case of GC f=
lags) for 32 bit support.

=E2=80=94 Rob
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title></head><body><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>On Mon, Jun 16, 2025, at 16:54, Alexandru P=C4=83tr=C4=
=83nescu wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" id=3D"qt" style=3D""><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"qt-gmail_quote qt-=
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"qt-gmail_attr">On Mon, =
Jun 16, 2025 at 4:03=E2=80=AFPM Marc Bennewitz &lt;marc@mabe.berlin&gt; =
wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"qt-gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top:0px=
;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:=
1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding=
-left:1ex;"><div>Hi all,</div><div> <br></div><div> It's 12.5 years only=
 until the timestamps in PHP on 32bit will not work </div><div> as expec=
ted anymore.</div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi,</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>I think&nbsp;that maybe we can already deprecate =
supporting 32 bit builds.</div><div>And, maybe with PHP 9, or PHP 10, or=
 with a future version that might exist in about 6/7 years, completely d=
rop 32 bits support.</div><div><br></div><div>As far as I checked a bit,=
 all major OSs where PHP could run already dropped or will drop support =
for 32 bits builds.</div><div>I expect that at some point even the linux=
 kernel will drop support.</div><div><br></div><div>The impacted runtime=
s will probably be very&nbsp;low.</div><div><br></div><div>--&nbsp;</div=
><div>Alex</div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>100% agree. We are already running out of space on some bitmasks (th=
ere are a couple with exactly one bit left, or even none in the case of =
GC flags) for 32 bit support.</div><div><br></div><div id=3D"sig12122915=
2">=E2=80=94 Rob</div></body></html>
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