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Subject: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Clone with v2
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From: volker@tideways-gmbh.com (Volker Dusch)

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Hi internals,

A couple of weeks ago, we stumbled over the fact that the original "clone
with" RFC was abandoned and thought it would still be useful to suggest a
trimmed down version of the proposal.

The main goal of this RFC is to propose a lightweight, low friction
implementation of this feature to satisfy the couple of use cases we see
and "round out" PHP in how it handles cloning, especially around
read-only-properties.

https://wiki.php.net/rfc/clone_with_v2

We are actively looking for some feedback on
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/clone_with_v2#open_issues, but of course all
points are welcome.

If this turns out to be more complex than anticipated, for some reason,
specifically around syntax or BC implications, we'd rather not add this at
all.

A preliminary implementation that shows how small the change set needs to
be exists at https://github.com/TimWolla/php-src/pull/6

Kind Regards,
Tim and Volker

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Volker Dusch
Head of Engineering
Tideways GmbH
K=C3=B6nigswinterer Str. 116
53227 Bonn
https://tideways.io/imprint

Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn
Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Benjamin Au=C3=9Fenhofer (geb. Eberlei)
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 22127

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi internals,<br clear=3D"all"></div><div><br></div><=
div>A couple of weeks ago, we stumbled over the fact that the original=C2=
=A0&quot;clone with&quot; RFC was abandoned and thought it would still be u=
seful to suggest a trimmed down version of the proposal.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>The main goal of this RFC is to propose a lightweight, low friction =
implementation=C2=A0of this feature to satisfy the couple of use cases we s=
ee and &quot;round out&quot; PHP in how it handles cloning, especially arou=
nd read-only-properties.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://wiki.p=
hp.net/rfc/clone_with_v2">https://wiki.php.net/rfc/clone_with_v2</a></div><=
div><br></div><div>We are actively looking for some feedback on=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"https://wiki.php.net/rfc/clone_with_v2#open_issues">https://wiki.php.n=
et/rfc/clone_with_v2#open_issues</a>, but of course all points are welcome.=
</div><div><br></div><div>If this turns out to be more complex than anticip=
ated, for some reason, specifically around syntax or BC implications, we=
9;d rather not add this at all.</div><div><br></div><div>A preliminary impl=
ementation that shows how small the change set needs to be exists at=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"https://github.com/TimWolla/php-src/pull/6">https://github.com/Ti=
mWolla/php-src/pull/6</a></div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards,</div><div>=
Tim and Volker</div><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-=
- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"g=
mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-fam=
ily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Volker Dusch</div><div style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Head of Engi=
neering</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif=
;font-size:12.8px"><div>Tideways GmbH</div><div>K=C3=B6nigswinterer Str. 11=
6</div><div>53227 Bonn</div><div><a href=3D"https://tideways.io/imprint" st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank">https://tideways.io/imprint<=
/a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn</div><div>Gesc=
h=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Benjamin Au=C3=9Fenhofer (geb. Eberlei)</div><div>Re=
gistergericht: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 22127</div></div></div></div></div>

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