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Just a ping email =E2=80=94 I haven=E2=80=99t disappeared, development is o= ngoing. Since the task has a high level of interdependency, I have to cautiously try different combinations. The second-to-last version, in trying to satisfy all requirements, turned out too complex to be taken seriously. However, the previous version was brought to a logical conclusion, which gave a clearer overall picture. Mind maps and feature-to-requirement diagrams were very helpful, as they allowed me to view the RFC as a balance between RFC complexity and code complexity. I=E2=80=99ve finally managed to find a good balance, though this RFC still surpasses all existing models in terms of tooling. I know minimalists won= =E2=80=99t like it, but this solution definitely deserves consideration. Have a good day. --0000000000001579c50631f06996 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Good day, everyone.

Just a ping email =E2=80=94 I haven=E2=80=99t disappear= ed, development is ongoing.

Since the task has a high level of interdependency, I h= ave to cautiously try different combinations. The second-to-last version, i= n trying to satisfy all requirements, turned out too complex to be taken se= riously.

However, the previous version was brought to a logical = conclusion, which gave a clearer overall picture. Mind maps and feature-to-= requirement diagrams were very helpful, as they allowed me to view the RFC = as a balance between RFC complexity and code complexity.

I=E2=80=99ve finally managed to find a good balance, th= ough this RFC still surpasses all existing models in terms of tooling. I kn= ow minimalists won=E2=80=99t like it, but this solution definitely deserves= consideration.

Have a good day.

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