Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:127000 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5648C1A00BC for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 10:27:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1743503126; bh=id4pAmdf+C3nJZQuCDhO9NLt76xQXbxDPlhoQ3gLyaY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FYTWSjfHx1HuwG4Q9JQT1qRZU9LUZ4rlcsKacY6NygxfRva/7Y3oEK9p2pTgG4dQL 6DDWQ5dtalahYSf20pNYAsVMgnPVrkLkeiLpTpZGcuCiMWTh7yFacbZDNZxNco4gvD BVTeVi7ZVpVmwkyF4PbqBUyHSjnLcRZfCrtpo2QzJq0EnxzkTISrsCNDyRdW9uK5ss RpPQSwI7tmeamsRiQ/+AGJjUdbOjLFTx68W9aeSeOJrPpOZE3YI8Ey4bblY51OgZZY ANYyVLTnYmYYlNNjSddhAnI8LHULXdoZpAexq8sePRNJTFDh2d2UctTSDz8NcAq9dH 7fwOok+n15oPw== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EFF180053 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 10:25:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 10:25:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1743503269; bh=HCbPqCOZCkXwXMsONVs8lyVLWs3sJaoncCRZV4rHUvs=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=AQsTTjapnT4IMdF0EuNhnVrPI1lOr5U1qOIhGvaYcS9GS8+jEIh8JOkycQcG5BsEz ig2QbuKk1TIx1gMboXoLihIUZywuXEvBgog/EaskMaN86+ojbUKGEQlHN1nGS3bB99 OtIXBlO2l81I/pAzLVMOxasx6pB8VZJkJLdGxbmTcACwkwEzyta3ZsonHp/pqTVlbh QWLDzhZRuL5y6dBD2kys1Pl54D8N02T1ujEYASkbxrmJK+SbFOFDFK9VvMEBTqXfT0 m1uOWjAqSogc7CdGGGoFyVmHbqVUQSw3waFn7/ZK6WC9Vel6/UPcukAfW6WuPB9LQP QNMknpTVFRYZg== Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:27:49 +0200 To: Juris Evertovskis Cc: 'php internals' Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Usable classes? In-Reply-To: <059201dba2ee$35c7bc00$a1573400$@glaive.pro> References: <059201dba2ee$35c7bc00$a1573400$@glaive.pro> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=) Hi Am 2025-04-01 12:09, schrieb Juris Evertovskis: > Sorry, but I've got another idea. I already validated it with ChatGPT > who > labeled it spicy. After clarifying some misunderstandings, they updated > the > label to "heretical". I hope you'll find it exciting as well. > > […] > > As ChatGPT told me yesterday: Sure, this blurs the lines between > classes, > traits, and interfaces. But so does PHP in general. The wording “spicy”, “heretical”, “literally unusable”, “vibe”, the use of ChatGPT, and the current calendar date requires me to ask: Is this intended as a serious proposal? I've stopped reading halfway through, because depending on how the proposal is intended to be perceived, the appropriate response and the amount of reasonable time to spend on it would differ. Best regards Tim Düsterhus