Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:126815 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A35B11A00BC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:53:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1742259055; bh=si3o8kXNg/Y5sKONwT+AtEdnHbROAzrAQk+VSXaZGBY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=miZlv9c342tgO7BffsvZ9MQvgNRJqQXRVg8PpZ6ZbTS3B3oJmckGEYB5iUyjjM8pU EkLdUh2oJnJhwmQ/qMKpnJHQ0ivLxTDgwhxp7RcIKlkTH9Zo5smgQb2/lRBqsKMCSo hkAiGMB7xDDt2TW+nEMLaT7w6Z0776sP/0YCUuzqxum6TWXLzlZEqMyd+of3TVe7ME mzmrD3JcDKV6/lOf/ztKLd87X3udC1E7XixzV6uFoD+jgLhjkNy0qKewSTiqzQHCAu 8rePSzVzDsdtyN7WUAhh5UgNd9c0VHVSg+ZMVM9DukJmgV/+t19PC78uN4p2iv9PHk 8KqEy3/oQVnlg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1670B180071 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:50:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:50:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1742259205; bh=si3o8kXNg/Y5sKONwT+AtEdnHbROAzrAQk+VSXaZGBY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jUrw8EQvPcNB0wOp4QEJmsC0aSWa6kBOxBZgaUtII00cXwy69VfA+TgUyN95KtmnS uofFcxbtekCxzmJRhvD6FEldXMHB83jj4YI66q9sv2M1o7Er2GCUscdT39N5ZpqISI wTPm3wKbs6w1XrxycoAsHeyicKQf4AWV1f+SkFRYlryBxgUFtVACbtpExiM3MdDsvJ 1IrPmrlNNiqF6vrRrlwy85qyIZUk0EtfBilE73a5kEtjbGiFnLXhX2zTvm8++sHMp8 b3yIcrakYrdQCOVilqwjcj8Aa4K9+Q0rFNHiJfcCGk9Pn/eTcekRCMerDOwTfPcsfz 7g2XBJHdZaCTw== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 167FA10C04F; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:53:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 00:53:24 +0000 (GMT) To: Bilge cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: short and inner classes In-Reply-To: <487b028c-20bd-4ebd-ab8f-972d9e633050@scriptfusion.com> Message-ID: References: <5aedb962-dfab-41ec-86ac-811dfe1074be@rwec.co.uk> <487b028c-20bd-4ebd-ab8f-972d9e633050@scriptfusion.com> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Fri, 14 Mar 2025, Bilge wrote: > On 14/03/2025 21:08, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote: > > On 14/03/2025 17:37, Rob Landers wrote: > > > What about a hybrid approach? Maybe something like `\\` that Tim > > > suggested? > > > > As a perfect example of this, check out how the second paragraph is > > rendered wrong here: https://externals.io/message/126589#126741 > > (compare here: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/126741) > > Just because some (incompetent) developers cannot grasp proper > escaping should have no bearing whatsoever on language design. I'm just catching up with this thread, but ad-hominems are not wanted on this list. Nor is it acceptable to indicate that because one developer might have less time, to call "RIP PHP". Please remember that we're trying to improve the language here. I would urge you to familiarise yourself with the Mailinglist Rules again: https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/docs/mailinglist-rules.md cheers, Derick