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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:32:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP True Async RFC - Stage 2
To: Oladoyinbo Vincent <oladoyinbov@gmail.com>
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From: edmond.ht@gmail.com (Edmond Dantes)

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Hello, Vincent.

>
>  Personally, i love the formal RFC for it's low level accessibility and
this new RFC isn't that bad.
>
If you mean classes like SocketHandle and so on, then the low-level API can
be available as a separate extension.

>
>  The `spawn` keyword maybe the right keyword to use but it seems more
weird, can we find another keyword to use other than that?
> Most languages i've seen make use of only the `async/await` keyword.
>

Yes, spawn has the downside of being more associated with threads. Here are
some other possible options:

   - launch =E2=80=94 like in Kotlin
   - go =E2=80=94 the shortest option

async is not the best choice because it looks more like an attribute, while
we would prefer to use a verb.

From a brevity standpoint, I like go, but after that, Go developers will
have to implement the $ symbol for all variables :)

---

Ed.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello,=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,31,31);font-s=
ize:0.875rem;font-family:&quot;Google Sans&quot;,Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helveti=
ca,Arial,sans-serif">Vincent.</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,=
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to,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">&gt;<br>&gt;=C2=A0</span>

Personally, i love the formal RFC for it&#39;s low level accessibility and =
this new RFC isn&#39;t that bad.<br><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,31,31);font=
-size:0.875rem;font-family:&quot;Google Sans&quot;,Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helve=
tica,Arial,sans-serif">&gt;</span></div><div>If you mean classes like <code=
>SocketHandle</code> and so on, then the low-level API can be available as =
a separate extension.=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,31,31);font-si=
ze:0.875rem;font-family:&quot;Google Sans&quot;,Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetic=
a,Arial,sans-serif"></span></div><div><br></div><div>&gt;<br>&gt;=C2=A0

The `spawn` keyword maybe the right keyword to use but it seems more weird,=
 can we find another keyword to use other than that? <br>&gt; Most language=
s i&#39;ve seen make use of only the `async/await` keyword.<br>&gt;</div><d=
iv><p>Yes, <code>spawn</code> has the downside of being more associated wit=
h threads. Here are some other possible options:</p>
<ul>
<li><code>launch</code> =E2=80=94 like in Kotlin</li>
<li><code>go</code> =E2=80=94 the shortest option</li>
</ul>
<p><code>async</code> is not the best choice because it looks more like an =
attribute, while we would prefer to use a verb.</p><p>From a brevity standp=
oint, I like <code>go</code>, but after that, Go developers will have to im=
plement the <code>$</code> symbol for all variables :)</p><p>---</p><p>Ed.<=
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