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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:07:39 +0100
To: Rob Landers <rob@bottled.codes>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: RFC: short and inner classes
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

Am 2025-03-13 21:46, schrieb Rob Landers:
> I will give \\ a try, but it has to be typed quite a bit when 
> referencing inner classes, so keeping it easy to type is a must. I feel 
> like \\ requires a large movement to type, at least on a qwerty 
> non-english keyboard. Maybe people using other keyboards can chime in.

I'm using a German keyboard where the backslash is indeed not 
particularly convenient to type, but that already applies to regular 
classes / namespaces. Once I reach out to type the backslash, the number 
of backslashes I type doesn't particularly matter, so I don't follow how 
typing would be any more complicated than regular class names.

The double backslash has one notable drawback in strings, where it would 
blow up to four backslashes in a row, but with the `::class` syntax and 
first class callables, putting class-names in strings should hopefully 
be rare going forward.

>> I don't think that inner classes are sufficiently valuable
> 
> I'm curious why some people feel this way and why some other people are 
> saying the opposite (emphatically). I'll nudge the private emails I've 
> received to speak up publicly on the list as well. But, why do you feel 
> this way?

You cut the context from the part you quoted, so I'm not sure how to 
answer to that question, since it seems to be based on a false premise.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus