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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: short and inner classes
To: Ilija Tovilo <tovilo.ilija@gmail.com>,
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From: bobwei9@hotmail.com (Bob Weinand)

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Hey Ilija,

On 6.3.2025 23:20:37, Ilija Tovilo wrote:
> I would also like to echo what has been said about the :: operator,
> which feels out of place. I understand that \ comes with additional
> autoloading challenges, namely requiring a fallback autoloading
> strategy that currently does not conform to PSR-4.

Could you please elaborate on why the :: operator feels out of place?

\ is a namespace separator.

:: is a class scoping separator.


You, yourself did decide to use nested :: for property hook scoping, 
like parent::$x::set() - a property scoped within a class, having methods.
The same applies here - it's a class scoped within a class, having methods.

Breaking from these patterns seems very surprising to me.


Bob

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    <p>Hey Ilija,<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6.3.2025 23:20:37, Ilija Tovilo
      wrote:<span style="white-space: pre-wrap">
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAPyj-LAz=3yX7mCYOijw2irrubgs2b3Piqy42_jpkek5ctKkWA@mail.gmail.com">
      <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">I would also like to echo what has been said about the :: operator,
which feels out of place. I understand that \ comes with additional
autoloading challenges, namely requiring a fallback autoloading
strategy that currently does not conform to PSR-4.</pre>
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    <p>Could you please elaborate on why the :: operator feels out of
      place?</p>
    <p>\ is a namespace separator.</p>
    <p>:: is a class scoping separator.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>You, yourself did decide to use nested :: for property hook
      scoping, like parent::$x::set() - a property scoped within a
      class, having methods.<br>
      The same applies here - it's a class scoped within a class, having
      methods.</p>
    <p>Breaking from these patterns seems very surprising to me.</p>
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    <p>Bob<br>
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