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Sat, 8 Mar 2025 13:11:14 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 12:10:53 -0600 To: "php internals" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9a2e81e8-3534-455b-879a-5a45c85b3ba7@gmail.com> References: <9964db8c-0ffe-43d5-8246-47fc76b07180@app.fastmail.com> <78a03dd0-fd4a-4f4a-ad8a-37e5704f06fc@app.fastmail.com> <08c8ad0b-e8f4-46e3-99f0-b80748d40b89@app.fastmail.com> <07973EAE-2D83-47A8-8FA0-84286C77C02B@rwec.co.uk> <48d66433-3ae9-4895-8361-7c81a0a3670d@app.fastmail.com> <8599eb8b-d4a3-4cb8-899a-25b134e0d64d@gmail.com> <74c4c726-63aa-44e0-84c9-840e13a65a4f@gmail.com> <9b7ab30f-5ed6-400d-b941-1291e9185286@app.fastmail.com> <9a2e81e8-3534-455b-879a-5a45c85b3ba7@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP True Async RFC Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, at 8:00 AM, Daniil Gentili wrote: >> As far as I can tell, the entire reason we are talking about this is because adding the event loop changes the behavior of existing code. So we cannot "just turn it on". >> >> I haven't seen an explanation of why this is the case, but that's how we got to this point. We need some way to "opt in" to turning on the event loop. > > This also seems like a very bad idea: there is no reason for the > language hide concurrency behind an INI or even worse a compilation > flag. This is beyond a strawman to the point of being a straw-pile. Literally no one has suggested "hiding concurrency behind an ini flag or compilation flag." Please confine your comments to those that have some basis is reality and in this thread. --Larry Garfield