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This is precisely the main reason not to change the syntax. The issue is not even about how many changes need to be made in the code, but rather about how many agreements need to be considered. Ed. --000000000000e8c996062fa7be46 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A0 Defining new syntax would encourage us to define a minimum top-level
>= ; behaviour, such as "inside an async{} block, these things are possib= le,
> and these things are guaranteed to be true"

True.= =C2=A0 This is precisely the main reason not to change the syntax. The issue is no= t even about how many changes need to be made in the code, but rather about= how many agreements need to be considered.

Ed.
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