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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:36:48 +0100
To: "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones@pmjones.io>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Add WHATWG compliant URL parsing API
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From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=C3=BCsterhus?=)

Hi

Am 2025-02-23 18:57, schrieb Paul M. Jones:
> In earlier discussions on the [Server-Side Request and Response 
> objects](https://externals.io/message/108436) RFC and the [after-action 
> sumamry](https://externals.io/message/109563), one of the common 
> non-technical objections was that it would better be handled in 
> userland.

I did not read through the entire discussion, but had a look at the 
“after-action summary” thread and specifically Côme’s response, which 
you apparently agreed with:

> My take on that is more that functionality in core needs to be 
> «perfect», or at least near unanimous.

Or perhaps phrased differently, like I did just a few days ago in: 
https://externals.io/message/126350#126355

> The type of functionality that is nowadays added to PHP’s standard 
> library is “building block” functionality: Functions that a userland 
> developer would commonly need in their custom library or application.

*Correctly* processing URIs is a common need for developers and it’s 
complicated to do right, thus it qualifies as a “building block”.

PHP also already has this functionality in `parse_url()`, but it's 
severely broken. To me it clearly makes sense to gradually provide 
better-designed and safer replacement functionality for broken parts of 
the standard library. This worked for the randomness functionality in 
PHP 8.2, for DOM in PHP 8.4 and hopefully for URIs in PHP 8.5.

Best regards
Tim Düsterhus