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User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <27531d9d-9bfe-4acc-b9ab-80b1017e3038@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: imsop.php@rwec.co.uk ("Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]") On 21 December 2024 16:43:39 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: >I would prefer to disable it by default but keep some option (INI) to >re-enable it=2E Rather than a global setting, which would make behaviour even more unpredi= ctable in libraries and out-the-box applications, I wonder if we could make= the cache explicit on the functions that use it? I'm thinking for instance of an extra argument, like:=20 $perms =3D fileperms($name, statcache: true); $size =3D filesize($name, statcache: true); I'm not sure if this should default to false straight away, or be introduc= ed gradually somehow, but it would make the behaviour much more explicit=2E Regards,=20 Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]