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Rather, when it > comes to immutable, growable data structures, every mutation becomes > an extremely expensive operation because the entire data structure, > including its underlying storage, needs to be copied. For example: > > https://3v4l.org/BEsYT Oops, appendImmutable() should of course have modified $new and returned it. https://3v4l.org/IkSY1 But you get the point.