Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125921
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 15:42:37 +0000 (GMT)
To: Jonathan Vollebregt <jnv@jnvsor.net>
cc: internals@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP.net analytics
In-Reply-To: <2011a2ec-e7e1-41b3-b429-8b39b5437355@jnvsor.net>
Message-ID: <44469339-a7b9-3e7d-1b53-489c6de1b0c8@php.net>
References: <55320aad-758a-4d06-b1bd-3eac2b5a5f71@app.fastmail.com> <AM8P250MB0170E88F2B19CA8C91786F66E2562@AM8P250MB0170.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <2011a2ec-e7e1-41b3-b429-8b39b5437355@jnvsor.net>
Precedence: bulk
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

On Sat, 2 Nov 2024, Jonathan Vollebregt wrote:

> On 11/2/24 12:10 AM, Bob Weinand wrote:
> > What percentage of users get to the docs through direct links vs the 
> > home page
> > 
> > That's something you can generally infer from server logs - was the 
> > home page accessed from that IP right before another page was 
> > opened? It's not as accurate, but for a general understanding of 
> > orders of magnitude it's good enough.
> 
> Even better: If we're talking about internal navigation you can check 
> the referrer header and know for sure, since the docs don't add 
> rel=noreferrer on links or anything.
> 
> You shouldn't need server logs _or_ client side JS. A lot of this 
> tracking stuff could be done by just putting down a proxy or shim that 
> checks request headers. It looks like matomo offers exactly this via 
> matomo/matomo-php-tracker.
> 
> I second bob's general sentiment: There's no need for client side 
> tracking.

As the person that will end up having to maintain this, I wasn't aware 
that https://github.com/matomo-org/matomo-php-tracker is pretty much the 
same as the JS tracker. And as it does HTTPS requests from the PHP 
application to Matomo, instead of a JS tracker, this seems like a
better solution, which is also more customisable.

cheers,
Derick

-- 
https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io

Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/support

mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social