Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125803 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20EB41A00BD for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:40:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1728909772; bh=A/VoO2bk+jwI5CFgPkdvZ5VFXjXgGgz9PCXV9+vNiQc=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=X/YjuHfkbF2ziqm2SO4eRyRC199eWWfFRjFzeGjgUhsKh7TO+qcVXZurscupQAtju CA0tFfqep5eFzPlqc/fKYJ507+J7d57M2mdGcDRt//lOXWWDAeKoRVVbcOsYCYhxEm oWxT0WeSc2V4abnneEFinD/9PZCSGUmUt5trrRp+Uk47/f4UOb1yDRpXU3XBGRVuDE zgMe45Btm4IPiwEkOOd6bVBHnnpdYwVWkuvHJr4zjkq1nQSPEevuSe9waJmYAmxsQT ovTZid8LGJncENjJ3+a1Q26lvhlrN5Te06QNVgur6z+UXfM9qqJoFamNygHQCKEJKQ z/9GCtI/oqVgg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E80F1804E4 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:42:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:42:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1728909623; x=1729514423; i=cmbecker69@gmx.de; bh=3KyD/Z/k8CIrv7LPScC3UUceJSYon9Zu8q3VZfdOhZc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc: References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=Bbv61XHsqJGeqdPWit9R4cdGVkXAxSpBphKcQTJV41aiXF8yno+0Z1P84j7UJ5MK y5yueWZ/xv1r5cDAcjTB7g2aPLBz28Otg1EbDXsL1W80cnIxqcxmE3Uivkz8l06aX 8+xOgHhQzaYH9RdTzl+e76j3NJxLNu31OZyJytx42S47XHr1SKXuqAR55PYmV1kxM nG8uvnkoZio1vxKXwuIejs3XCJdHoRoST85lHJcuUANV9BpvYY29A2uOHy5PM3E28 O75sQcV9Be9YrsPJtZZVdgFSfIGadLCyW3f8S8oWvzBxirSpXXRYPW33Ue6crP+Ur gW0Nqe2gX8MfBYZuDw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([79.251.205.37]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwQXN-1tpxYI0pfB-00wwxs; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <822a256a-a5dd-4711-8526-b8de04a58d1c@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:40:22 +0200 Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Asymmetric visibility is a BC break To: "Gina P. Banyard" , Bilge Cc: AllenJB , Valentin Udaltsov , internals@lists.php.net References: <3648840e-5c73-49c9-bc89-105ed761e5c2@scriptfusion.com> <2d0032fe-c7b8-4945-959e-1094d728b332@allenjb.me.uk> Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Ga2io9ZWHbG7X8iceNPN5TVM9O5kuRChl/Dr+9qs5JI/VoVdIEm zhd8qou+SXXFKoClvJ4qzgjr3t5AeWlEer/vufx1LnXJU5uZVHWhgm4Y+THdgA5A/mJ28i9 7fJsRWesJ302d2l9X047DBO8/AV8WwNWyCpM9k6YyRpGHLPbzo/iMYqLlRGgk6qC/bjkd2S 5ZsX7JtOFdL0Z38h5DTbQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:/TRXeANkpDU=;7zT8p/P+CpaRZ8cCzzFBoHeNo/C 7K/12FAgP5bnWbujbco4+43hr6afRrnS9q2iN9pB2FwpYtsNpB2fzTUGlv6EqxLx7zmSByoN1 v+lroaRX9a9ysm7YTenGOTnbxul/SBOSmv8Cs6+ZYpYwWOK/R55RpTqNd/uZot6ZGrvKBN9xW o5DHHzZAaNufhyULeyWgwlCSU30gX34VN7v+RRiFqT7oKFrzzQqtUkl9EmOERGaG9yE0ar3QZ SWa+FaPfu0ZGWgyea/dCpkM7CLsPKaug/Iglb1O7vZ3q4dFFbMO+sHIUFdXhxVQkA18shUzdk XL0kPBEGosBuHKLhlHLgfn3Wan6uQ6ll39sX1FY1dBI8D2IbGokk3SuJha7bu/u+pThKFYkrB /TBpgkDhX1a1v5wj3MizdpwaTNb0Vh00TusVTQTBGNba1N5UwQMnZrqZ1s4nl/UeVJ/DRtnTl Kod7FiL9eAnyw+2zslek2bxoYdlPqWgKshI8vsCXLGXGX9IZKoI+t26CNrTdkn3abami+S1EK PiM+Ip3omBbz5HVMSNvXA0xYtM/2avPgSz1gfGSwZ4ek0pujRgCledqV5lLn6zJSZvYuTl2bi N10c4F73ZZAAAKLw+c/aUj4ScwqLyqG+XtoIqBCv6x/L0FCOkLpnM3dEF9Jpjt7+5HGblVtG1 al+nOKpeiuuQ0/TMZazDpm6zx2UVKzeHm77ItTq8anUKT7dvrshRWZdKbS8IbVXWdPwJzR5KD N6iiDvmlSrkl/OQrarKjnrIok3rXJf4EL5CUv4W7jEltcU/zkOqjwGoMi3/WfTWSRlTRZe0xf jU4osXvgLKuOtyD1kVx/2pKg== From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 14.10.2024 at 13:29, Gina P. Banyard wrote: > The thing is, I don't even know what: > >> Source compatibility should be kept if possible, while breakages are al= lowed > > means here. That refers to external extensions and SAPIs, etc. Binary compatibility as not possible (due to API number bump), but source code compatibility *should* be kept for minor PHP versions. Christoph