Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125802 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B50D81A00F7 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:29:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1728905533; bh=G9KEig9kNzOp47XU8IAeL0wM/rZkRiD2f1WcSOCl4vI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ioUUSEosuamZgtSWUyhWUoRgC6hCMTh7MK3dXosQw0pX4u17bY2C3x47akdBZoWmL T4RQr0DtrpZ+ys9v3S6UePrGT8RNvoLNTCeJ0DD0ooKBYOkaOp94kxmuWrTtBWkCWb lsIEvGt/a8Rpg3LIMVFrVE/vVV+VWnybzkdAzpO/0eOGXgRsZ/hNKHE5KXEj0dJQUz TmpkNbPPbmFmGTkoMsVzJKUhD2Tp+oLy/HUT5O4Tz6R09XYKRoOQ6X7cje8wadH8UV N4LO3uQlleSWSzJKRFUbVugHbXrO3CijvnVqpbvtPxGbRKh5uoPHHJ8rD5bvb8spbD /b3DwCgccY6Wg== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAA218038B for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:32:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-40136.proton.ch (mail-40136.proton.ch [185.70.40.136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:32:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gpb.moe; s=protonmail2; t=1728905385; x=1729164585; bh=G9KEig9kNzOp47XU8IAeL0wM/rZkRiD2f1WcSOCl4vI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=VeyVmrouikgVTHqudapmBkj+rZtbpXv72RyY6t15pxgkd85etQzCJNaa29aONpUbu XaRAdnzw+6illuYfCMKq/t48RkkHMYOe047i5ukwrTn0gf7NSlRmQtCV8bA51dDeoZ 2oJ8xZOLWJf9MYb+1yhfxASYdp1D8c/zNVGWgjEuXCp8hfZXUQnoy9/PpnUgFznsv7 QetLW1vToCA3wcRZBE3cesTjMMHmAYgnmbR07LWQuTVKQN4jqXjhNlg1+jGMt1U0x5 7m7v3rsbGQjG72ndm5OOmTxO8DuSFB/yK+SGOvgnM0mCJMmJnbH5epxN0+dfXlWdzu 0uhK/V4XwkNEA== Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:29:40 +0000 To: Bilge Cc: AllenJB , Valentin Udaltsov , internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Asymmetric visibility is a BC break Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <3648840e-5c73-49c9-bc89-105ed761e5c2@scriptfusion.com> <2d0032fe-c7b8-4945-959e-1094d728b332@allenjb.me.uk> Feedback-ID: 96993444:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: cc1f8abbd299c7b87612e1791bce9454ca7f318e Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internals@gpb.moe ("Gina P. Banyard") On Monday, 14 October 2024 at 12:22, Bilge wrote: > On 14/10/2024 11:17, AllenJB wrote: >=20 > > For reference, current policy on BC-breaks is here: > > https://github.com/php/policies/blob/main/release-process.rst >=20 > That policy clearly states BC breaks are only allowed in major versions, > which flies in the face of what I read: >=20 > "Breaking changes are allowed in minor releases, if they go through the > RFC process. We don't follow semantic versioning." > https://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/57515936 >=20 >=20 > Now I don't know what to believe. shrugs >=20 > Kind regards, > Bilge Yeah, this is wrong. Every single minor version of PHP dating all the way back to PHP 4.0.0 has = had BC breaks. The thing is, I don't even know what: > Source compatibility should be kept if possible, while breakages are allo= wed means here. Best regards, Gina P. Banyard