Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:125743 X-Original-To: internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: internals@lists.php.net Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (php-smtp4.php.net [45.112.84.5]) by qa.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26291A00BD for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1728041100; bh=21Hv62PC2YxJBGHWTxEL7Ox49J/3S8qyMpu0OcmZuwc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=SP4LvYjlwlTH6np+LQjmHCEmT88swyeoGmIfaT1U2HlBt4GDWtC35buf0k/28XJSo 9OJko78L6qG6TKTdwneSqJA8v9kPpxxFthKoBpw/QjnB7snUlUgxUCFGcu65bMOn9s eR/OHtFvzzG4heDnyeSINQT2crNI6hDgdZv3f68LmG9C/MzDzqay3Mw5mjJ0N4eZJ7 kd3s++yTlMC4zOWMzChi85TUiL5tPaMHzGc67nokASSch/peBaRt70FlMReM4OJ0c8 dv33S54k857G9PlSb+ee1vstDzpYmnUaWzU/B6xNZF8S2ivsU4nOzzdXEdQi8RHDQW /owz8CeZosz4w== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DCD180068 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:24:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:24:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1728040964; bh=21Hv62PC2YxJBGHWTxEL7Ox49J/3S8qyMpu0OcmZuwc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=kXwL1FFRc4eKPltT6SUs3en7RmI8Cqm54E7EtY9lmONbpJXkx2zb62p0TJfi2Cb5M bE3ZIP8xwvkG8AozGLhmVtP5ktDwYOWZBEj1gDF2dFLBb7D7bBiSKiTc2EFdok8VqF SgwV3jM34ifqRTr0cVlRxnnL11Urxk85yOpjT5AskIfkUTIji6oZOfsr8LTbNPHoui KjWNpdDsGRlfWqPPjGRbaUIruW1FlJjZlCB6aLpfkxNGOAh6/Rkurgh/uiksD4hQht hqCDaZUkyW6k+RFvUxS2xDzhr1L5159z3hGxWTMU+/C7xtgIyUmr2RlYJgT/wPtziH M1It/2RbLmzoA== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14AC110C027; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 12:22:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 12:22:43 +0100 (BST) To: Larry Garfield cc: php internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Policy on 3rd party code In-Reply-To: <92b537ac-62f4-435c-bf55-07223cfa1915@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <6c50bb45-9b88-b904-50d1-5b8a46e17a32@php.net> References: <92b537ac-62f4-435c-bf55-07223cfa1915@app.fastmail.com> Precedence: bulk list-help: list-post: List-Id: internals.lists.php.net x-ms-reactions: disallow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Wed, 2 Oct 2024, Larry Garfield wrote: > Since Jim's RFC proposal was criticized for being too vague, I hereby > offer a somewhat more prescriptive policy proposal on using 3rd party > code. (With JIm's blessing.) It's still more heuristics than rules, > but I think that's the right approach generally. It also includes a > voting mechanism to resolve edge cases when they come up. > > I'm sure we'll bikeshed it to death, but please keep an open mind > about the concept in the first place. PHP is more than just php-src, > and that's a good thing. We need to catch up with that reality, while > at the same time maintaining a reasonable neutrality about projects > Internals doesn't manage directly. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/third-party-code > > *Puts on trusty flame-retardant suit* | The following packages are explicitly approved for use by this RFC, as | they meet all of the criteria above. | | - Xdebug That's not strictly true, as it doesn't have an "Approved License". It's a nitpick, but Xdebug has "The Xdebug License" (https://github.com/xdebug/xdebug/blob/master/LICENSE), which is the PHP License 3.01, but with s/PHP/Xdebug. I've been wanting to change that for ages, but it requires approval from all contributors, and that's not going to happen easily. cheers, Derick -- https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/support mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social