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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Change Directory class to behave like an opaque object
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From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield")

On Tue, Oct 1, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Nick Lockheart wrote:
>>=20
>> Hey Nick,
>>=20
>> Is this actually an issue though? \Directory would be a weird thing
>> to autoload. Most people tend to autoload specific namespaces. I
>> think it would be weird to autoload into the global namespace.
>>=20
>> Maybe I am wrong, and that is why I ask.
>>=20
>> =E2=80=94 Rob
>
>
> In a situation where people aren't using namespaces at all, it would be
> normal to create your own class with a conflicting name, not knowing
> there was a built-in.

Which is why anyone creating a global namespace class, especially with a=
 generic name like that, in 2024 is Doing PHP Wrong(tm).  The top-level =
namespace has been considered "reserved" (at least de facto, if perhaps =
not sung from the rooftops) for... 15 years?  Maybe not as long as there=
 have been namespaces, but close to.

I have no strong opinions on this RFC as I've not paid close attention t=
o it, but "we can't introduce an unnamespaced class, that's a BC break" =
is simply not true, and not consistent with how Internals and the stdlib=
 are and have been developed.

--Larry Garfield